What do you guys think? Would one of the modern card manufacturers see increased sales if they stepped up their game and stopped being content with simply slapping a basic refractor finish on everything?


Just recently on the Censorship Forums I lamented the same thing using Retro as the prime example. Not that Arena Design doesn’t deserve credit, but the fact Fleer/Skybox had the best, most varied manufacturing aspects of the big 3 brands certainly didn’t hurt.Deadshot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:50 pm I was just chatting with someone about how card designs alone aren't going to up the quality of current releases. The manufacturers have to be willing to print using the correct technology (which isn't cheap). Layered acetate, embossing, different foil board, etc. There's a reason the UD Retro stuff didn't compare to the original. It wasn't the design, it was the materials.
Same!
100%His Dudeness wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:09 pm Few things bring back the childlike excitement in this hobby for me like the feel and even sight of an embossed card. They need to make a full comeback
Yeah those Boss/Super boss cards were awesome. Still have a few in one of my 90's binders.green_stiller wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:19 pm I love the Boss/Super Boss sets. Agreed, embossing is a great premium touch!
100% Some of the modern designs are actually quite nice but it's the cheap printing tech that hinders their potential.Deadshot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:50 pm I was just chatting with someone about how card designs alone aren't going to up the quality of current releases. The manufacturers have to be willing to print using the correct technology (which isn't cheap). Layered acetate, embossing, different foil board, etc. There's a reason the UD Retro stuff didn't compare to the original. It wasn't the design, it was the materials.
Yeah exactly man. The recent Metal re-release could have been a lot closer to the originals if they didn't just print the cards on cheap card stock. I was so disappointed when I saw some of that stuff.darz90scardz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:22 pm Just recently on the Censorship Forums I lamented the same thing using Retro as the prime example. Not that Arena Design doesn’t deserve credit, but the fact Fleer/Skybox had the best, most varied manufacturing aspects of the big 3 brands certainly didn’t hurt.
Yes! Donruss elite, and illusions have some nice embossed diecutsLamplighter42 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:17 pm Panini does do a bit of embossing right now, mostly in Elite and Illusions. I haven't seen much in Topps products, though, which is a bad sign going forward.
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Some of the lower end products have great looking affordable inserts.Lamplighter42 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:17 pm Panini does do a bit of embossing right now, mostly in Elite and Illusions. I haven't seen much in Topps products, though, which is a bad sign going forward.
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