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Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:24 pm
by AbraCalabro
Well, the ownership of psa to be exact, now owns BGS as well. Thanks for saving me money, I guess.
TAG or nothing.
nat is aids to the sports card hobby.
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 7:47 am
by FrankAZHP
This sucks. Monopolies are bad for the consumer. We all know this. But this is late stage capitalism though. A few companies own all the media (Netflix is now buying Warner Bros too), a few companies own all the technology (Google/Apple/Microsoft), and even in our hobbies like video games (Madden/2K exclusive licenses), and cards (Fanatics/Collectors) a few companies own everything. Even our retailers in the last 20 years have devolved into WalMart and Amazon owning a huge percentage of all retail sales.
I've come to terms with this.
I'm 42 years old. I've only got like 30 years left or something, this isn't a battle for me. I don't have the money or power to battle something like this. This is a battle for the youth, and I don't know how much of an impact they'll be able to make either. All I can do is look longingly and lovingly at the past, and occasionally bitch and moan and sigh, while I enjoy what I can with my time while I have it.
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:36 am
by AbraCalabro
FrankAZHP wrote: Wed Dec 17, 2025 7:47 am
This sucks. Monopolies are bad for the consumer. We all know this. But this is late stage capitalism though. A few companies own all the media (Netflix is now buying Warner Bros too), a few companies own all the technology (Google/Apple/Microsoft), and even in our hobbies like video games (Madden/2K exclusive licenses), and cards (Fanatics/Collectors) a few companies own everything. Even our retailers in the last 20 years have devolved into WalMart and Amazon owning a huge percentage of all retail sales.
I've come to terms with this.
I'm 42 years old. I've only got like 30 years left or something, this isn't a battle for me. I don't have the money or power to battle something like this. This is a battle for the youth, and I don't know how much of an impact they'll be able to make either. All I can do is look longingly and lovingly at the past, and occasionally bitch and moan and sigh, while I enjoy what I can with my time while I have it.
This goes back to a dialogue we had on here about there being enough stupid consumers who will buy anything even in the face of anti-consumer practices, so much that it continues to sustain these companies while they crap on their faithful lemmings.
The problem here is that nat turner is steeped in conflict of interest and that's tied to corruption, he has his own grading company and his own price aggregator that has been revealed in the past to be...dubious, over on another forum. They've gobbled up SGC and now BGS and turner benefits from all this. He also got called out for getting preferential treatment in the past with pictures that he posted himself and the fact that he complained about the upcharge, then piped down about it after getting into a psa ownership position speaks volumes. nat turner is EVERYTHING wrong with sports cards as a hobby today.
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 1:13 pm
by benxcrunner1
Now Nat is selling his exquisite 1/1 logoman of kobe and Jordan on heritage. Never thought I would see that, but when prices inflate even "real" wink wink collectors will sell

Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 4:04 pm
by AbraCalabro
lmfaooooooooooo
seriously? he knows exactly what he's doing.
I wonder how high it's going to get shilled up by "legit" buyers...can't wait to read the big article that follows the sale.
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 11:43 am
by benxcrunner1
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:08 pm
by AbraCalabro
lmao
Definitely something to think about when a guy who doesn't need the money sell that card. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a stunt to keep eyes on a market that will burn if the sheep don't see stuff like this happening often enough and he's got a lot of money in it.
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2025 12:52 pm
by SacKingsCards
Such a bummer all around. The worst part is that hobby news, content and social media is dominated by these headlines, effectively giving card collecting the reputation of simply being about making money. It’s more crucial now than ever for collectors to flood the Internet with card talk, collection shares, and meaningful conversation about the non-monetary part of the hobby. I got a lot of work to do in that arena, but that’s my one cent.
That said, I couldn’t care less as someone who doesn’t grade. Happy to pick up a Giannis bags 9 auto for the price of a raw or lower a couple months back. Happy to continue avoiding Psa 9s and 10s.
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2025 4:19 pm
by benxcrunner1
I use the logoman as a coaster for my starbucks bear cup
https://www.ebay.com/itm/227072928916?c ... uWEALw_wcB
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 2:59 pm
by AbraCalabro
lmfaoooooooooooooooo
I'd rather just keep the money and buy a creased, dinged MJ rookie card with AIDS for that price! #invest
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2025 3:02 pm
by AbraCalabro
SacKingsCards wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 12:52 pm
Such a bummer all around. The worst part is that hobby news, content and social media is dominated by these headlines, effectively giving card collecting the reputation of simply being about making money. It’s more crucial now than ever for collectors to flood the Internet with card talk, collection shares, and meaningful conversation about the non-monetary part of the hobby. I got a lot of work to do in that arena, but that’s my one cent.
That said, I couldn’t care less as someone who doesn’t grade. Happy to pick up a Giannis bags 9 auto for the price of a raw or lower a couple months back. Happy to continue avoiding Psa 9s and 10s.
Yeah pretty much, just parasites being fed on by bigger parasites.
Definitely more crucial for genuine hobbyists to talk about cards and NOT MONEY. I still like TAG, but not sure I'd send anything in if it doesn't have a protective coating, just don't like the lack of an inner sleeve.
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:13 pm
by benxcrunner1
it's all about the money now bruh, soon cards will replace fiat currency and will be used to buy groceries and other necessities. Your kids will no longer be taught math and science in school but instead will have Geoff wilson's book as their mandatory reading so they can make fat stacks!

Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:32 pm
by AbraCalabro
benxcrunner1 wrote: Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:13 pm
it's all about the money now bruh, soon cards will replace fiat currency and will be used to buy groceries and other necessities. Your kids will no longer be taught math and science in school but instead will have Geoff wilson's book as their mandatory reading so they can make fat stacks!
Got an advance copy of this one, Chapter 1 is titled: Marry a rich sugar mommy!
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 9:37 am
by benxcrunner1
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2026 1:40 pm
by mindcycle
AbraCalabro wrote: Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:32 pm
benxcrunner1 wrote: Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:13 pm
it's all about the money now bruh, soon cards will replace fiat currency and will be used to buy groceries and other necessities. Your kids will no longer be taught math and science in school but instead will have Geoff wilson's book as their mandatory reading so they can make fat stacks!
Got an advance copy of this one, Chapter 1 is titled: Marry a rich sugar mommy!
Glad you posted this so I can share the updated cover..
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:48 pm
by AbraCalabro
mindcycle wrote: Mon Jan 05, 2026 1:40 pm
AbraCalabro wrote: Mon Dec 29, 2025 4:32 pm
benxcrunner1 wrote: Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:13 pm
it's all about the money now bruh, soon cards will replace fiat currency and will be used to buy groceries and other necessities. Your kids will no longer be taught math and science in school but instead will have Geoff wilson's book as their mandatory reading so they can make fat stacks!
Got an advance copy of this one, Chapter 1 is titled: Marry a rich sugar mommy!
Glad you posted this so I can share the updated cover..
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lmfaooooooooooooooo
it's funny...because it's true
EDIT:
"Turn your failed investments into a collection!"
OMG, that's one of the best, most accurate one liner descriptions I've ever read about that loser and his shtick.
Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2026 9:57 am
by mindcycle
AbraCalabro wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:48 pm
lmfaooooooooooooooo
it's funny...because it's true
EDIT:
"Turn your failed investments into a collection!"
OMG, that's one of the best, most accurate one liner descriptions I've ever read about that loser and his shtick.
Seems like that’s how he’s obtained all of his cards. Buy at the top of the market thinking you’re smart, keep once they tank in price and start calling them your “PC”.

Re: Conglomo PSA buys BGS
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 1:38 pm
by AbraCalabro
mindcycle wrote: Sat Jan 17, 2026 9:57 am
AbraCalabro wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 1:48 pm
lmfaooooooooooooooo
it's funny...because it's true
EDIT:
"Turn your failed investments into a collection!"
OMG, that's one of the best, most accurate one liner descriptions I've ever read about that loser and his shtick.
Seems like that’s how he’s obtained all of his cards. Buy at the top of the market thinking you’re smart, keep once they tank in price and start calling them your “PC”.
dumb leading the dumb basically lmao
so many marks in sports cards now after that scum bag gary v showed up for 5 minutes