The Collectible Card Petition - Manufacturing & Distribution

[Deadshot]

I saw this posted on social media today. I appreciate the effort, so I thought I'd share it here.

https://chng.it/LDG4VGCFcm

[mindcycle]

Thanks for posting here man. I saw this earlier today as well and signed it.

Here's the petition in full for those interested.







https://chng.it/BRBQHfZNNf

[frisbeesteve]

An interesting concept for sure, but I'm not crazy about its execution.

It comes across to me as arrogant and pretty demanding, as if Fanatics "owes collectors" something. They don't. That being said, I do hope that Fanatics will make a good faith effort to keep tabs on the pulse of the hobby, and be ready and willing to be flexible if and when they see enough dislike for certain things that they are trying or doing. It seems like there are plenty of pros and cons already, regarding their hobby takeover. Here's hoping that we as collectors and consumers, will be able to influence them to grow the pros and shrink the cons.

Not holding my breath, but remaining hopeful nonetheless.

[mindcycle]

An interesting concept for sure, but I'm not crazy about its execution.

It comes across to me as arrogant and pretty demanding, as if Fanatics "owes collectors" something. They don't. That being said, I do hope that Fanatics will make a good faith effort to keep tabs on the pulse of the hobby, and be ready and willing to be flexible if and when they see enough dislike for certain things that they are trying or doing. It seems like there are plenty of pros and cons already, regarding their hobby takeover. Here's hoping that we as collectors and consumers, will be able to influence them to grow the pros and shrink the cons.

Not holding my breath, but remaining hopeful nonetheless.

I kind of feel like if I wrote it it would be a lot harsher even but I totally get what you mean. I’m hoping this is followed up after awhile with more suggestions, or maybe broken down a bit more. Keep it relevant with current events and in collectors minds. People in this hobby tend to quickly forget any wrongdoings by manufacturers after a week or so. Just stick that flashy new Prizm pink sparkle mojo dust parallel in front of them, they go back to spending money on overpriced junk, and all is forgiven.

[frisbeesteve]

I kind of feel like if I wrote it it would be a lot harsher even but I totally get what you mean. I’m hoping this is followed up after awhile with more suggestions, or maybe broken down a bit more. Keep it relevant with current events and in collectors minds. People in this hobby tend to quickly forget any wrongdoings by manufacturers after a week or so. Just stick that flashy new Prizm pink sparkle mojo dust parallel in front of them, they go back to spending money on overpriced junk, and all is forgiven.

I agree, the memories and/or attention spans of many in the hobby don't last very long, and/or they are just overcome with addiction/FOMO to add the next card to their collection. I can at least somewhat sympathize, as I'm not willing to completely boycott modern cardboard's sole source (Panini today, Fanatics tomorrow), despite evidence of plenty of mistakes and even some downright neglect. I think that the best that we can hope for is to stay alert, and make noise (both good and bad) when actors in the space do good and bad things. Praise the good, and call out the bad, without a goal to either immortalize or cancel someone.

I know this probably sounds silly in such a polarizing day and age, but I hope and actually even believe that eventually, fair and balanced minds will prevail. Not every right or wrong will necessarily receive its appropriate attention and reactions, but the aggregate will be able to be sorted out and judged by the masses, especially if they have some leadership that isn't determined to follow a specific agenda to see card values skyrocket or tank.

[darz90scardz]

Was this drafted by one guy or was it more of a collaborative deal?

Wonder if he/they are open to some tweaks, but as Kyle mentioned I do appreciate the effort.

[SacKingsCards]

I kind of feel like if I wrote it it would be a lot harsher even but I totally get what you mean. I’m hoping this is followed up after awhile with more suggestions, or maybe broken down a bit more. Keep it relevant with current events and in collectors minds. People in this hobby tend to quickly forget any wrongdoings by manufacturers after a week or so. Just stick that flashy new Prizm pink sparkle mojo dust parallel in front of them, they go back to spending money on overpriced junk, and all is forgiven.

I agree, the memories and/or attention spans of many in the hobby don't last very long, and/or they are just overcome with addiction/FOMO to add the next card to their collection. I can at least somewhat sympathize, as I'm not willing to completely boycott modern cardboard's sole source (Panini today, Fanatics tomorrow), despite evidence of plenty of mistakes and even some downright neglect. I think that the best that we can hope for is to stay alert, and make noise (both good and bad) when actors in the space do good and bad things. Praise the good, and call out the bad, without a goal to either immortalize or cancel someone.

I know this probably sounds silly in such a polarizing day and age, but I hope and actually even believe that eventually, fair and balanced minds will prevail. Not every right or wrong will necessarily receive its appropriate attention and reactions, but the aggregate will be able to be sorted out and judged by the masses, especially if they have some leadership that isn't determined to follow a specific agenda to see card values skyrocket or tank.

I like your tempered response. I think we can all agree that every card manufacturer during their time did some good and bad things in terms of design, production, distribution, etc. At the end of the day if someone cares about the cards themselves, rather than their current or prospective value, there will always be good looking cards to collect of their favorite players/teams.

[mindcycle]

The guy who created this went a bit stupid on IG last week and started calling out “negative” voices.

[frisbeesteve]

What's his IG handle?

[darz90scardz]

The guy who created this when a bit stupid on IG last week and started calling out “negative” voices.

Yea we’re gonna need a new petitioner

What's his IG handle?

@eephus_pitch

[mindcycle]

The guy who created this when a bit stupid on IG last week and started calling out “negative” voices.

Yea we’re gonna need a new petitioner

What's his IG handle?

@eephus_pitch

The one thing that really ruins the new “influencer” hobby landscape is ego. I honestly didn’t mind all the talking heads at first once the pandemic hit, but too many of those guys wanted to portray expertise and experience when there really was none. Or with this eephus_pitch guy, look at the hobby with a singular viewpoint and mock everything else. It’s not black and white.

The collectors making hobby content I respect the most typically have an opinion and are willing to speak up if needed, but aren’t close minded. The whole negative label trend is so tiring at this point. Labeling others as negative appears to quite often be an attempt to appeal to the “positive” creators/influencers, trying to get your foot into the industry, and less to do with that persons real viewpoint. It’s drama for the sake of drama. “Hey, look at me!”