<![CDATA[The Hobby Boards]]> https://thehobbyboards.com Smartfeed extension for phpBB <![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: A sincere Thank You for the hobby "negativists". :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-23T19:10:36-05:00 2025-03-23T19:10:36-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2624&p=6598#p6598
siuwongkee wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:09 pm When I saw Tiffany Cards shared his/her inbox messages, TBH, I was astonished. I do not follow a lot of people when I was still in the hobby. I heard from Dan he sometimes receives some very negative message. But the message Tiffany Cards received, to me, is pure BS. Let me try to put things in perspective. (Please forgive my poor English)

From my understanding, most collectibles (or alt investments), let's say coins, jewels, watches, paintings, handbags, there is always a war between REAL and counterfeit items. But as far as I know, the burden is NEVER on the laypeople. What do I mean, it is always the manfacturers, grading or authentic services providers or auction houses to share the burden. But for sports cards, not only it is the burden for laypeople, worse, these people are labeled as hobby negativists. Ok, what is even worse. (Yes worse and worse) Those claim themselves the gatekeepers of the hobby, really care nothing about the hobby. They are just zombies that blindly follows the money.

Imagine today, it is not Tiffany Cards, it is not Dan, it is not sports card radio that expressed how disgusting an undiclosed substance card cleaning is, it is Nat Tuner, it is Michael Rubin whom said that. Sorry, for a hasty conclusion, I am damn sure, all the KOL will come out and say something like, good job, this is the direction we need. Yes, time for some changes and so on and so forth.

So, thank you for the good work. People might not understand what and why you are doing this, and in reality things might not change a lot but THANK YOU for all the good works, thank you.
The reason that honest people are called negative, is because the people who are benefitting financially from corruption don't like being exposed. At the same time, the corruption is almost apparent and out in the open, but the corrupt people don't even care. They preach positive things, but they are the exact opposite of what they preach. This profile / formula is unchanged for well over a decade now since 2010.

Also keep in mind, you can usually tell about a person's character by the people they surround themselves with and naturally, all these people who are corrupt and shady are associated with one another.

By the way, I'm reading this very late, what message did Tiffany Cards get?]]>
siuwongkee wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:09 pm When I saw Tiffany Cards shared his/her inbox messages, TBH, I was astonished. I do not follow a lot of people when I was still in the hobby. I heard from Dan he sometimes receives some very negative message. But the message Tiffany Cards received, to me, is pure BS. Let me try to put things in perspective. (Please forgive my poor English)

From my understanding, most collectibles (or alt investments), let's say coins, jewels, watches, paintings, handbags, there is always a war between REAL and counterfeit items. But as far as I know, the burden is NEVER on the laypeople. What do I mean, it is always the manfacturers, grading or authentic services providers or auction houses to share the burden. But for sports cards, not only it is the burden for laypeople, worse, these people are labeled as hobby negativists. Ok, what is even worse. (Yes worse and worse) Those claim themselves the gatekeepers of the hobby, really care nothing about the hobby. They are just zombies that blindly follows the money.

Imagine today, it is not Tiffany Cards, it is not Dan, it is not sports card radio that expressed how disgusting an undiclosed substance card cleaning is, it is Nat Tuner, it is Michael Rubin whom said that. Sorry, for a hasty conclusion, I am damn sure, all the KOL will come out and say something like, good job, this is the direction we need. Yes, time for some changes and so on and so forth.

So, thank you for the good work. People might not understand what and why you are doing this, and in reality things might not change a lot but THANK YOU for all the good works, thank you.
The reason that honest people are called negative, is because the people who are benefitting financially from corruption don't like being exposed. At the same time, the corruption is almost apparent and out in the open, but the corrupt people don't even care. They preach positive things, but they are the exact opposite of what they preach. This profile / formula is unchanged for well over a decade now since 2010.

Also keep in mind, you can usually tell about a person's character by the people they surround themselves with and naturally, all these people who are corrupt and shady are associated with one another.

By the way, I'm reading this very late, what message did Tiffany Cards get?]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: A sincere Thank You for the hobby "negativists". :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-23T19:16:55-05:00 2025-03-23T19:16:55-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2624&p=6599#p6599
mindcycle wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:02 am I agree. We definitely need people like Tiffany Cards, Dan the Card Man, SCR, etc..

Given "the hobby" is completely unregulated, often times those are the only avenues a lot of collectors have to opposing points of views. We've seen quite the dramatic shift from the days of the set/player collector being the primary focus of collectibles based companies, to now focusing almost entirely on the "gambler" or "hustler". The large scale push back around Kurt's Card Care makes all too much sense when everyone from the flipper to the collectibles companies themselves are essentially promoting that mentality.

I made a few YT videos on the recent card cleaning situation and pointed out that the only questions raised about shady behavior/practices seems to come from the average hobbyist. Almost no one else is doing anything. In the case of card cleaning it's the anti-cleaning crowd that has to identify and inform others about these cleaned cards. The cleaners aren't disclosing anything, nor are the grading companies taking any real action to identify this stuff. Tiffany Cards and others over on BO have been documenting doctored cards for years. I'd say most of what they've identified are still active certs at grading companies which is truly sad when you have the work being done for you.. But again, no regulation means that a company like PSA has essentially no obligation to do anything and will likely only take action when there's significant enough push back.

So i'll just copy/paste my fist sentence here, lol. We definitely need people like Tiffany Cards, Dan the Card Man, SCR, etc..
Notice also that the people staying silent, or promoting the shift you mentioned are the same talking heads that piss and moan about negativity. They complain about negativity while killing the hobby and making it a lot more cost prohibitive for people to actually participate...all the while talking about, "Having more collectors is good for the hobby!" Meanwhile, there's a gate keeping wall of money that keeps people out...to be honest, the people who need to be gate kept are the SCIs, Turners, Card Ladders, Gary V brand trash bags, Mojos, "Investors", hustlers, et al., and their group of sub human affiliates.]]>
mindcycle wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:02 am I agree. We definitely need people like Tiffany Cards, Dan the Card Man, SCR, etc..

Given "the hobby" is completely unregulated, often times those are the only avenues a lot of collectors have to opposing points of views. We've seen quite the dramatic shift from the days of the set/player collector being the primary focus of collectibles based companies, to now focusing almost entirely on the "gambler" or "hustler". The large scale push back around Kurt's Card Care makes all too much sense when everyone from the flipper to the collectibles companies themselves are essentially promoting that mentality.

I made a few YT videos on the recent card cleaning situation and pointed out that the only questions raised about shady behavior/practices seems to come from the average hobbyist. Almost no one else is doing anything. In the case of card cleaning it's the anti-cleaning crowd that has to identify and inform others about these cleaned cards. The cleaners aren't disclosing anything, nor are the grading companies taking any real action to identify this stuff. Tiffany Cards and others over on BO have been documenting doctored cards for years. I'd say most of what they've identified are still active certs at grading companies which is truly sad when you have the work being done for you.. But again, no regulation means that a company like PSA has essentially no obligation to do anything and will likely only take action when there's significant enough push back.

So i'll just copy/paste my fist sentence here, lol. We definitely need people like Tiffany Cards, Dan the Card Man, SCR, etc..
Notice also that the people staying silent, or promoting the shift you mentioned are the same talking heads that piss and moan about negativity. They complain about negativity while killing the hobby and making it a lot more cost prohibitive for people to actually participate...all the while talking about, "Having more collectors is good for the hobby!" Meanwhile, there's a gate keeping wall of money that keeps people out...to be honest, the people who need to be gate kept are the SCIs, Turners, Card Ladders, Gary V brand trash bags, Mojos, "Investors", hustlers, et al., and their group of sub human affiliates.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: How many times has Panini recycled the 2012 Prizm design? :: Author SHowley2003]]> 2025-04-01T18:30:53-05:00 2025-04-01T18:30:53-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2985&p=6651#p6651
-the original 2012 release
-2020 Prizm Flashback
-2021 Prizm Draft
-2023 Prizm Deca
-2024 WNBA Throwback autos

I’m curious. What else am I missing? I just assume they have also carried this design over to other sports at some point as well.

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-the original 2012 release
-2020 Prizm Flashback
-2021 Prizm Draft
-2023 Prizm Deca
-2024 WNBA Throwback autos

I’m curious. What else am I missing? I just assume they have also carried this design over to other sports at some point as well.

Pics for attention:

I don’t own any of the Flashback golds.

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<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: The Current, Lamentable State of Hobby Forums :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-03-26T14:17:07-05:00 2025-03-26T14:17:07-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2963&p=6620#p6620
SacKingsCards wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:44 pm 1. Is this bad? Is there a downside to Instagram being the main internet avenue of collector hobby consumption?
I first joined IG in early 2018 or somewhere around there after a guy on blowout was encouraging people to sign up and share card photos over there. That was actually a pretty novel idea at the time as posting photos to forums was actually rather difficult if you'd never done it before. I had photobucket, flickr, imagr, etc.. which worked fine once you figured it out, but with IG you select the photo with your phone and post it. It was really easy.

The few years prior to 2020 (and even into mid to late 2020) there seemed to be mostly collectors posting cool cards, refining photo techniques, sharing collections, etc.. Then the talking heads started to show up in late 2020 once the covid boom was in full effect, and it all went downhill after that imo.

Now, that doesn't mean IG can't still be a positive place to share cool cards, but that seems to be secondary to "showing off" cards. Nowadays it seems like more of a popularity contest where the main goal is to post how much money you either spent on cards, or made on cards. It's a far cry from what it was for those first few years.
SacKingsCards wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:44 pm I would argue the answer to this is a resounding YES. I think this is frankly awful and sad for collectors and the health of (basketball) card collecting. Kyle touches on this a lot in episode 125 of his podcast on the history of hobby message boards. One of the really good points brought up was that message boards maintained a record and history of the hobby. It's obviously so crucial to be able to look back at past conversations about cards, releases, sets, authenticity, scams, fraud, pricing, markets, trends, etc. I'd highly recommend listening to the episode for more info.

Beyond that, one thing that none of these modern platforms elicit is the long form discussion of forums. If you think about it, is there anything significant that comes from utilizing instagram from a hobby perspective? Of course, you get to see a lot of cards, and efficiently. But is rare that an instagram post includes any information by the poster, and if there are any comments, the few that even contain words rather than emojis won't usually be more than oohs and aahs telling the poster that they have a nice card. Blekh. Such a dearth of anything meaningful or interesting.
Agree 100% regarding the Wax Museum episode you reference. I'm also in agreement that with IG and social media in general, long form card discussion essentially disappeared. When you're collecting as an actual hobby you really need that aspect to help with the "collecting for fun" mentality that seems to have largely gone by the wayside in recent years. A large percentage of IG posts are usually followed with zero information about the player, card, set, etc.. Often because the poster probably doesn't even know anything about any of those aspects, they're simply posting the card to either show off how valuable it is or they are trying to sell it.
SacKingsCards wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:44 pm 2. Does anyone else miss this?
Like, I can't be the only one who feels unfulfilled and bored by Instagram being the only real means of interacting with the hobby online?
Well, i'd say I definitely miss it since I created this forum, lol. Albeit 15 years too late..🤣 But yes, I have absolutely felt bored with IG and also have felt overwhelmed by it at times.

Which, apologies in advance for the tangent below..but I feel the need to go into more detail regarding the above statement.. Basically, once the 2020 boom hit and then proceeded to take center stage in 2021/22, I started to get caught up in all the wrong things. Instead of having fun collecting and enjoying card photos, getting new ideas for set or player chases, I started to see just how corrupted the market was/had become. And we all know sports cards (basketball specifically) has always attracted the scammers, pumpers, bad actors, but it was suddenly on a whole new level with the manufactures and larger companies seemingly getting involved as well.. I felt I needed to continue to bring the collectors perspective into focus by calling all this out. That became more of a focus than just having fun. I created story posts almost every time something shady went down, started my YouTube channel to address stuff, and was just caught up in it all. And really no surprise, it burnt me the f out..

Despite all of my efforts has anything really changed? No. In fact, it's just gotten worse now that Fanatics has monopolized the hobby and has put their full focus into what can best be described as forcefully transforming the hobby into a casino. I can't even view, let alone cover, everything they do on a daily basis now. Stuff that is just pushing the hobby further and further away from an actual "hobby". You know.. something you're supposed to do in your free time for fun. Not some pie in the sky get rich quick scheme.

I took a break from IG for a month or so in early 2024 and it was a good "cleanser" if you will. However, when I started getting back on I realized it wasn't enough, so I chose another strategy. I blocked all Topps and Fanatics accounts, dropped or blocked any IG account with profile keywords like "investor", "buy and sell","whatnot", "breaker", etc.. Any talking head account.. blocked. I realized that for myself the less i'm exposed to the side of the hobby that I hate, the more enjoyable it is for me personally.

Now will I stop getting caught up in "hobby drama".. Nope, lol. But i'm also not going in as strong as I was, i'm not even logging into IG daily like I used to. As much as i'd like some of the great collectors I know on IG to get over here and start posting their stuff on the forums, I know it's likely just not happening. But by focusing more on their posts and interesting conversations over DMs and such, it's become much more enjoyable for me as of late.
SacKingsCards wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:44 pm 3. Should there be a sense of responsibility by (basketball) collectors to invest time and effort into reestablishing forums as a part of hobby culture?
I mean, I'm creating this thread, and doing so on a forum, so obviously I think the answer is yes. But the rationale isn't as ego-centric as it may seem. My rationale comes from looking at the baseball collecting culture. Baseball card collectors are so much more committed and interested in, you know, baseball cards. Do yourself a favor and take some time to peruse the baseball section of Blowout, r/baseballcards on Reddit, or the comments section of some baseball card YouTube videos. All of these are incredibly active, and way more so than the equivalent in basketball cards. Sure, there are probably more baseball card collectors than basketball card ones, but there are surely TONS of basketball card collectors, and for the most part everything outside of Instagram is a relative ghost town. I think the longevity, or even shifting back towards a love of collecting, of collecting basketball cards depends on us being actively involved in discussing cards and our love of them.

As a simple example, on Blowout's baseball card talk section, there are two threads with 222 and 429 replies that are one month and one WEEK old, respectively on the topic of the 2025 Topps Baseball release. I know that Topps flagship baseball is a lot more intricate and nuanced than a Panini Hoops release, for example, but how great would it be to have a place to be able to talk about a basketball release at that depth? Obviously, these are only two of countless threads in the baseball section on Blowout, but I think it indicates a health and passion for collecting by a bunch of baseball card collectors. I think that encourages more people to collect and continue building their passion for collecting.
The issue I see with basketball cards and discussing new releases is they are hugely overpriced nowadays and myself and most others I know don't buy boxes any longer due to that. It's hard to get excited about products you'll only ever buy singles of at best. I'd love to see release/set discussion become a thing again, but just not sure it ever will given the price barrier that only seems to be getting high and higher. Maybe some day though.. I'd love to get some of the baseball guys over here but i'm not going to poach them from BO either. Quite simply, i'm never going back to blowout so I really don’t know how to get them over here. Maybe they'll eventually end up here once their threads start to disappear after some talking head comes knocking on Tom Fish's door.. :lol:

One of my goals for this site has been to try and get back to the "good ole days" of collecting for fun and just sharing card, set, release, knowledge with others. Obviously, with a bit of drama sprinkled in, lol. But mostly just to have a spot to adequately discuss card related topics that seemed to be more the norm when I got back into the hobby in the early 2010's via places like HK and BO.

At this point in time it's mostly us basketball collectors on here it seems. Which I think is because that's what i've always collected and when I started to promote the site that's who I was mainly speaking to on IG and my YT. I'm working on making the site more accessible and mobile friendly. Which it always has been really, but my big mistake when I first launched was the attachment feature was broken so IG users took one look and probably gave up after uploading images didn't work. With that fixed I think it's a much more streamlined experience and one I can promote better which I plan to do in some upcoming videos and whatnot.

But ultimately.. what makes the site great and something people will want to visit is posts like yours, Abra's, and everyone else who has contributed and continues to contribute. So thank you! The more content, the more people will pull it up in Google searches, and the more people we'll convince to get signed up and give it a try.]]>
SacKingsCards wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:44 pm 1. Is this bad? Is there a downside to Instagram being the main internet avenue of collector hobby consumption?
I first joined IG in early 2018 or somewhere around there after a guy on blowout was encouraging people to sign up and share card photos over there. That was actually a pretty novel idea at the time as posting photos to forums was actually rather difficult if you'd never done it before. I had photobucket, flickr, imagr, etc.. which worked fine once you figured it out, but with IG you select the photo with your phone and post it. It was really easy.

The few years prior to 2020 (and even into mid to late 2020) there seemed to be mostly collectors posting cool cards, refining photo techniques, sharing collections, etc.. Then the talking heads started to show up in late 2020 once the covid boom was in full effect, and it all went downhill after that imo.

Now, that doesn't mean IG can't still be a positive place to share cool cards, but that seems to be secondary to "showing off" cards. Nowadays it seems like more of a popularity contest where the main goal is to post how much money you either spent on cards, or made on cards. It's a far cry from what it was for those first few years.
SacKingsCards wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:44 pm I would argue the answer to this is a resounding YES. I think this is frankly awful and sad for collectors and the health of (basketball) card collecting. Kyle touches on this a lot in episode 125 of his podcast on the history of hobby message boards. One of the really good points brought up was that message boards maintained a record and history of the hobby. It's obviously so crucial to be able to look back at past conversations about cards, releases, sets, authenticity, scams, fraud, pricing, markets, trends, etc. I'd highly recommend listening to the episode for more info.

Beyond that, one thing that none of these modern platforms elicit is the long form discussion of forums. If you think about it, is there anything significant that comes from utilizing instagram from a hobby perspective? Of course, you get to see a lot of cards, and efficiently. But is rare that an instagram post includes any information by the poster, and if there are any comments, the few that even contain words rather than emojis won't usually be more than oohs and aahs telling the poster that they have a nice card. Blekh. Such a dearth of anything meaningful or interesting.
Agree 100% regarding the Wax Museum episode you reference. I'm also in agreement that with IG and social media in general, long form card discussion essentially disappeared. When you're collecting as an actual hobby you really need that aspect to help with the "collecting for fun" mentality that seems to have largely gone by the wayside in recent years. A large percentage of IG posts are usually followed with zero information about the player, card, set, etc.. Often because the poster probably doesn't even know anything about any of those aspects, they're simply posting the card to either show off how valuable it is or they are trying to sell it.
SacKingsCards wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:44 pm 2. Does anyone else miss this?
Like, I can't be the only one who feels unfulfilled and bored by Instagram being the only real means of interacting with the hobby online?
Well, i'd say I definitely miss it since I created this forum, lol. Albeit 15 years too late..🤣 But yes, I have absolutely felt bored with IG and also have felt overwhelmed by it at times.

Which, apologies in advance for the tangent below..but I feel the need to go into more detail regarding the above statement.. Basically, once the 2020 boom hit and then proceeded to take center stage in 2021/22, I started to get caught up in all the wrong things. Instead of having fun collecting and enjoying card photos, getting new ideas for set or player chases, I started to see just how corrupted the market was/had become. And we all know sports cards (basketball specifically) has always attracted the scammers, pumpers, bad actors, but it was suddenly on a whole new level with the manufactures and larger companies seemingly getting involved as well.. I felt I needed to continue to bring the collectors perspective into focus by calling all this out. That became more of a focus than just having fun. I created story posts almost every time something shady went down, started my YouTube channel to address stuff, and was just caught up in it all. And really no surprise, it burnt me the f out..

Despite all of my efforts has anything really changed? No. In fact, it's just gotten worse now that Fanatics has monopolized the hobby and has put their full focus into what can best be described as forcefully transforming the hobby into a casino. I can't even view, let alone cover, everything they do on a daily basis now. Stuff that is just pushing the hobby further and further away from an actual "hobby". You know.. something you're supposed to do in your free time for fun. Not some pie in the sky get rich quick scheme.

I took a break from IG for a month or so in early 2024 and it was a good "cleanser" if you will. However, when I started getting back on I realized it wasn't enough, so I chose another strategy. I blocked all Topps and Fanatics accounts, dropped or blocked any IG account with profile keywords like "investor", "buy and sell","whatnot", "breaker", etc.. Any talking head account.. blocked. I realized that for myself the less i'm exposed to the side of the hobby that I hate, the more enjoyable it is for me personally.

Now will I stop getting caught up in "hobby drama".. Nope, lol. But i'm also not going in as strong as I was, i'm not even logging into IG daily like I used to. As much as i'd like some of the great collectors I know on IG to get over here and start posting their stuff on the forums, I know it's likely just not happening. But by focusing more on their posts and interesting conversations over DMs and such, it's become much more enjoyable for me as of late.
SacKingsCards wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:44 pm 3. Should there be a sense of responsibility by (basketball) collectors to invest time and effort into reestablishing forums as a part of hobby culture?
I mean, I'm creating this thread, and doing so on a forum, so obviously I think the answer is yes. But the rationale isn't as ego-centric as it may seem. My rationale comes from looking at the baseball collecting culture. Baseball card collectors are so much more committed and interested in, you know, baseball cards. Do yourself a favor and take some time to peruse the baseball section of Blowout, r/baseballcards on Reddit, or the comments section of some baseball card YouTube videos. All of these are incredibly active, and way more so than the equivalent in basketball cards. Sure, there are probably more baseball card collectors than basketball card ones, but there are surely TONS of basketball card collectors, and for the most part everything outside of Instagram is a relative ghost town. I think the longevity, or even shifting back towards a love of collecting, of collecting basketball cards depends on us being actively involved in discussing cards and our love of them.

As a simple example, on Blowout's baseball card talk section, there are two threads with 222 and 429 replies that are one month and one WEEK old, respectively on the topic of the 2025 Topps Baseball release. I know that Topps flagship baseball is a lot more intricate and nuanced than a Panini Hoops release, for example, but how great would it be to have a place to be able to talk about a basketball release at that depth? Obviously, these are only two of countless threads in the baseball section on Blowout, but I think it indicates a health and passion for collecting by a bunch of baseball card collectors. I think that encourages more people to collect and continue building their passion for collecting.
The issue I see with basketball cards and discussing new releases is they are hugely overpriced nowadays and myself and most others I know don't buy boxes any longer due to that. It's hard to get excited about products you'll only ever buy singles of at best. I'd love to see release/set discussion become a thing again, but just not sure it ever will given the price barrier that only seems to be getting high and higher. Maybe some day though.. I'd love to get some of the baseball guys over here but i'm not going to poach them from BO either. Quite simply, i'm never going back to blowout so I really don’t know how to get them over here. Maybe they'll eventually end up here once their threads start to disappear after some talking head comes knocking on Tom Fish's door.. :lol:

One of my goals for this site has been to try and get back to the "good ole days" of collecting for fun and just sharing card, set, release, knowledge with others. Obviously, with a bit of drama sprinkled in, lol. But mostly just to have a spot to adequately discuss card related topics that seemed to be more the norm when I got back into the hobby in the early 2010's via places like HK and BO.

At this point in time it's mostly us basketball collectors on here it seems. Which I think is because that's what i've always collected and when I started to promote the site that's who I was mainly speaking to on IG and my YT. I'm working on making the site more accessible and mobile friendly. Which it always has been really, but my big mistake when I first launched was the attachment feature was broken so IG users took one look and probably gave up after uploading images didn't work. With that fixed I think it's a much more streamlined experience and one I can promote better which I plan to do in some upcoming videos and whatnot.

But ultimately.. what makes the site great and something people will want to visit is posts like yours, Abra's, and everyone else who has contributed and continues to contribute. So thank you! The more content, the more people will pull it up in Google searches, and the more people we'll convince to get signed up and give it a try.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: The Current, Lamentable State of Hobby Forums :: Reply by benxcrunner1]]> 2025-03-30T12:28:19-05:00 2025-03-30T12:28:19-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2963&p=6637#p6637 <![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: The Current, Lamentable State of Hobby Forums :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-01T06:48:02-05:00 2025-04-01T06:48:02-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2963&p=6646#p6646
benxcrunner1 wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:28 am Reading these kinds of posts always feels like a much needed detox for my brain from the IG machine. IG just glamorizes money and status. People fawning over people who would slit your throat to make a few bucks. I will never understand why people look up to these so called "dealers'. Like OMG thank you so much for selling me a card I wanted for 50% over the last comp, thank you Mr. Middleman!!
Figuratively speaking, you have no idea how on the mark that statement in bold is. Before I got banned from BO, I was chatting with someone regarding a PMG red...one of those high rollers was desperate to buy the card from the seller, so that once he bought it, he could, in turn, jack up the price, to sell it to another well known high roller.

The PMG got sold to a player collector overseas, but the seller described the high end crowd as "incestuous" and he was on the money, no pun intended.

Yeah that high end crowd is awful dude. If you have a card they want, then it's worth next to nothing, but if they have something you want, better take out a second, or third mortgage...and they act like they're doing you a favor, as if they're blessing you by giving you the opportunity to get absolutely railed on the price. Then they'll turn around and say "For the hobby" and "I love helping other collectors," but they only talk that talk.]]>
benxcrunner1 wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:28 am Reading these kinds of posts always feels like a much needed detox for my brain from the IG machine. IG just glamorizes money and status. People fawning over people who would slit your throat to make a few bucks. I will never understand why people look up to these so called "dealers'. Like OMG thank you so much for selling me a card I wanted for 50% over the last comp, thank you Mr. Middleman!!
Figuratively speaking, you have no idea how on the mark that statement in bold is. Before I got banned from BO, I was chatting with someone regarding a PMG red...one of those high rollers was desperate to buy the card from the seller, so that once he bought it, he could, in turn, jack up the price, to sell it to another well known high roller.

The PMG got sold to a player collector overseas, but the seller described the high end crowd as "incestuous" and he was on the money, no pun intended.

Yeah that high end crowd is awful dude. If you have a card they want, then it's worth next to nothing, but if they have something you want, better take out a second, or third mortgage...and they act like they're doing you a favor, as if they're blessing you by giving you the opportunity to get absolutely railed on the price. Then they'll turn around and say "For the hobby" and "I love helping other collectors," but they only talk that talk.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: The Current, Lamentable State of Hobby Forums :: Reply by benxcrunner1]]> 2025-04-01T12:01:08-05:00 2025-04-01T12:01:08-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2963&p=6649#p6649 <![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: The Current, Lamentable State of Hobby Forums :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-04-05T20:18:28-05:00 2025-04-05T20:18:28-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2963&p=6662#p6662
benxcrunner1 wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:01 am I also wonder how these dealers are always getting new inventory, seemingly every few weeks some of these big IG accounts are always showing off their new 100k of pickups. And they aren't getting them from auctions, and they are looking to liquidate the pickups immediately for a profit. Who on earth is selling to them below comps and then who on earth is buying from them above comps....
Well I think this part just has to do with audience/following. I think some dealers have enough of a following that their cards reach more eyes than the common man. So I might struggle to sell a card for $100, sell it to them for $75 cuz they know they can turn around and sell it someone for $125. Not to mention when you sell more people might buy for more from you due to combined shipping or something like that.]]>
benxcrunner1 wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:01 am I also wonder how these dealers are always getting new inventory, seemingly every few weeks some of these big IG accounts are always showing off their new 100k of pickups. And they aren't getting them from auctions, and they are looking to liquidate the pickups immediately for a profit. Who on earth is selling to them below comps and then who on earth is buying from them above comps....
Well I think this part just has to do with audience/following. I think some dealers have enough of a following that their cards reach more eyes than the common man. So I might struggle to sell a card for $100, sell it to them for $75 cuz they know they can turn around and sell it someone for $125. Not to mention when you sell more people might buy for more from you due to combined shipping or something like that.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: The Current, Lamentable State of Hobby Forums :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-04-05T20:59:52-05:00 2025-04-05T20:59:52-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2963&p=6663#p6663
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:17 pm First off, this is a great topic and I hope you don't mind that I moved it to "The Hobby" forum as I feel it fits perfectly with what I created this section for.
Awesome post man, thanks for letting us in your head a bit. What really sticks out to me is what you mention about baseball. I don’t think they have the same problems basketball card collectors have, or at least not to the same degree. Baseball still has collectors that aren’t about clout or card portfolios or any of that. Probably not a coincidence then that baseball card discussion is still alive and well, even if not quite to the level it used to be. I’m hopeful that the increased activity on places such as this forum there can satisfy our itch some. It certainly hurts that modern wax isn’t interesting to most collectors, but I wonder why that’s the case in basketball but not baseball because it seems like lots of baseball collectors still collect current products plenty.]]>
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:17 pm First off, this is a great topic and I hope you don't mind that I moved it to "The Hobby" forum as I feel it fits perfectly with what I created this section for.
Awesome post man, thanks for letting us in your head a bit. What really sticks out to me is what you mention about baseball. I don’t think they have the same problems basketball card collectors have, or at least not to the same degree. Baseball still has collectors that aren’t about clout or card portfolios or any of that. Probably not a coincidence then that baseball card discussion is still alive and well, even if not quite to the level it used to be. I’m hopeful that the increased activity on places such as this forum there can satisfy our itch some. It certainly hurts that modern wax isn’t interesting to most collectors, but I wonder why that’s the case in basketball but not baseball because it seems like lots of baseball collectors still collect current products plenty.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: The Current, Lamentable State of Hobby Forums :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-09T22:00:25-05:00 2025-04-09T22:00:25-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2963&p=6679#p6679
benxcrunner1 wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:01 am I also wonder how these dealers are always getting new inventory, seemingly every few weeks some of these big IG accounts are always showing off their new 100k of pickups. And they aren't getting them from auctions, and they are looking to liquidate the pickups immediately for a profit. Who on earth is selling to them below comps and then who on earth is buying from them above comps....
They don't pay what they tell you it's worth.]]>
benxcrunner1 wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:01 am I also wonder how these dealers are always getting new inventory, seemingly every few weeks some of these big IG accounts are always showing off their new 100k of pickups. And they aren't getting them from auctions, and they are looking to liquidate the pickups immediately for a profit. Who on earth is selling to them below comps and then who on earth is buying from them above comps....
They don't pay what they tell you it's worth.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: Nat Turner posts IG photo with Gonblott aka Nick Uliano :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-20T16:21:38-05:00 2025-03-20T16:21:38-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2979&p=6572#p6572
birds of a feather man

amazes me that people think turner is a good guy, he's the same as the people he surrounds himself with

as for gonblott...what he has, himself, posted publicly is more than enough evidence to show what type of slime ball he is

that whole clique is garbage, they killed the hobby]]>

birds of a feather man

amazes me that people think turner is a good guy, he's the same as the people he surrounds himself with

as for gonblott...what he has, himself, posted publicly is more than enough evidence to show what type of slime ball he is

that whole clique is garbage, they killed the hobby]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: Nat Turner posts IG photo with Gonblott aka Nick Uliano :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-03-20T18:00:02-05:00 2025-03-20T18:00:02-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2979&p=6577#p6577 <![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: Nat Turner posts IG photo with Gonblott aka Nick Uliano :: Reply by ZSCollects]]> 2025-03-23T14:50:53-05:00 2025-03-23T14:50:53-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2979&p=6597#p6597 <![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: Nat Turner posts IG photo with Gonblott aka Nick Uliano :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-03-25T17:24:13-05:00 2025-03-25T17:24:13-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2979&p=6611#p6611
AbraCalabro wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:21 pm lmfao

birds of a feather man

amazes me that people think turner is a good guy, he's the same as the people he surrounds himself with

as for gonblott...what he has, himself, posted publicly is more than enough evidence to show what type of slime ball he is

that whole clique is garbage, they killed the hobby
Dude was setting false comps and pumping specific cards/sets decades before it became the cool thing to do. No wonder all the guys who have majorly profited off the hobby these past few years look the other way and hang around him. Some of them probably look up the the guy. What a sad "hobby" card collecting has become..
SacKingsCards wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:00 pm I'm with you guys. Never understood the obsession with these guys who own 5 and 6 figure cards that talk about the card market ad nauseum. Funny how they rarely talk about, you know, the cards themselves. Still can't believe no one cares that this guy with a hugely valuable collection is the head of the main grading company in the hobby. The conflicts of interest are impossible to ignore.
Definite conflict of interest. Cards have become a status symbol now. I know Nat is a set collector and I can respect that path since as much as it's a grind, it can be really rewarding as well. Sadly, nowadays to collect a lot of the cool 90's sets any normal person would need to remortgage their house first. That's why it's so interesting to me that Nat would associate with a guy like Gonblott.. Someone who essentially set the stage to make it more difficult and expensive for him to complete the sets he chases.

Nat used to voice his opinion regarding PSA upcharges back in his blowout days, but after buying Collectors he's suddenly silent and upcharges seemingly got worse.. Just makes you wonder..

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1285177
ZSCollects wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:50 pm As somebody who never used blowout or had any idea any of this was a thing. Thank you all for doing God's work, making the public aware.
All credit goes to Abra for exposing him many years ago. I felt it necessary to provide awareness here and on IG because people have the right to know.]]>
AbraCalabro wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:21 pm lmfao

birds of a feather man

amazes me that people think turner is a good guy, he's the same as the people he surrounds himself with

as for gonblott...what he has, himself, posted publicly is more than enough evidence to show what type of slime ball he is

that whole clique is garbage, they killed the hobby
Dude was setting false comps and pumping specific cards/sets decades before it became the cool thing to do. No wonder all the guys who have majorly profited off the hobby these past few years look the other way and hang around him. Some of them probably look up the the guy. What a sad "hobby" card collecting has become..
SacKingsCards wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:00 pm I'm with you guys. Never understood the obsession with these guys who own 5 and 6 figure cards that talk about the card market ad nauseum. Funny how they rarely talk about, you know, the cards themselves. Still can't believe no one cares that this guy with a hugely valuable collection is the head of the main grading company in the hobby. The conflicts of interest are impossible to ignore.
Definite conflict of interest. Cards have become a status symbol now. I know Nat is a set collector and I can respect that path since as much as it's a grind, it can be really rewarding as well. Sadly, nowadays to collect a lot of the cool 90's sets any normal person would need to remortgage their house first. That's why it's so interesting to me that Nat would associate with a guy like Gonblott.. Someone who essentially set the stage to make it more difficult and expensive for him to complete the sets he chases.

Nat used to voice his opinion regarding PSA upcharges back in his blowout days, but after buying Collectors he's suddenly silent and upcharges seemingly got worse.. Just makes you wonder..

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1285177
ZSCollects wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:50 pm As somebody who never used blowout or had any idea any of this was a thing. Thank you all for doing God's work, making the public aware.
All credit goes to Abra for exposing him many years ago. I felt it necessary to provide awareness here and on IG because people have the right to know.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: Nat Turner posts IG photo with Gonblott aka Nick Uliano :: Reply by dengbang]]> 2025-03-25T22:57:37-05:00 2025-03-25T22:57:37-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2979&p=6619#p6619 <![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: Nat Turner posts IG photo with Gonblott aka Nick Uliano :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-28T20:42:17-05:00 2025-03-28T20:42:17-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2979&p=6633#p6633
mindcycle wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:24 pm
Dude was setting false comps and pumping specific cards/sets decades before it became the cool thing to do. No wonder all the guys who have majorly profited off the hobby these past few years look the other way and hang around him. Some of them probably look up the the guy. What a sad "hobby" card collecting has become..
I honestly don't doubt that for a second. Look at how these losers all defend each other. It's funny that they're shrewd as hell when it comes to money and dealing / trading cards, but when you show them 20/20 vision proof of something that benefits them being rotten, all of a sudden their brain cells come to a screeching halt.
dengbang wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 9:57 pm The funny part is that once you meet gonblott in person, regardless of knowing his past or not, you quickly realize he's not someone from the hobby you want to hang around.
LOL

This is not the first time I've read this / heard this about him.]]>
mindcycle wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:24 pm
Dude was setting false comps and pumping specific cards/sets decades before it became the cool thing to do. No wonder all the guys who have majorly profited off the hobby these past few years look the other way and hang around him. Some of them probably look up the the guy. What a sad "hobby" card collecting has become..
I honestly don't doubt that for a second. Look at how these losers all defend each other. It's funny that they're shrewd as hell when it comes to money and dealing / trading cards, but when you show them 20/20 vision proof of something that benefits them being rotten, all of a sudden their brain cells come to a screeching halt.
dengbang wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 9:57 pm The funny part is that once you meet gonblott in person, regardless of knowing his past or not, you quickly realize he's not someone from the hobby you want to hang around.
LOL

This is not the first time I've read this / heard this about him.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: Nat Turner posts IG photo with Gonblott aka Nick Uliano :: Reply by benxcrunner1]]> 2025-03-30T11:04:34-05:00 2025-03-30T11:04:34-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2979&p=6636#p6636 <![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: Nat Turner posts IG photo with Gonblott aka Nick Uliano :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-01T07:36:18-05:00 2025-04-01T07:36:18-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2979&p=6647#p6647
benxcrunner1 wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 10:04 am Even reading that old forum post, I haven't the faintest idea of what Nick U did. I don't know if there is some type of "hobby cabal" but I'm too new to know the history. I'll buy anyone a coffee if they're willing to go in depth on the history of it all but you gotta name names.
There definitely is a group of associates that you could call a cabal. Goes way back to over a decade, close to 15 years now. That's a super long discussion.

Nick seems all about the shilling, price fixing, hyping and I wouldn't trust his MJ camp autos ever.

His main thing that he does is to look at what's selling, acquire whatever the hot card is, then generate as much discussion about the card and its value to raise interest and then it will turn out he has the exact card, or a card matching the description / attributes of a patch / auto that he uses to generate discussion. He will also use aliases and different personas so that he can buy the cards without any one knowing that it's him buying the cards.

Two major examples that have visible evidence behind them are the Jordan PMG red 023/100 and the LeBron James RPA /99. I forget the serial number on Nick's copy, but I'll try to make this short:

In a discussion on Hobby Kings (old school hobby forum that was THE place to be back in the day), now defunct, Nick participated in a thread discussing the Kobe PMG green 008/100. Using a secondary account, he commented that who ever has the Jordan 023/100 should cash in. I think it was a year later, more/less, all of a sudden, using his main account "Gonblott" he makes a thread asking for opinions on a card...which just so happens to be the Jordan PMG red 023/100, wow, what are the odds?! That this same exact guy, out of the billions of people on the planet, happens to land this exact card, with this exact serial number...? He claimed it wasn't his card, but was just looking to get opinions on condition / value. Later in an interview with cardboard chronicles, he talks about acquiring this card coupled with a story about some hooker, or something, out of Vegas got in touch with him about the card lol. The video has since been made private after he got the spotlight on him on the BO forums.

Much later, 2016-2018, using the alias NYFAN2014, he would bump discussion about the LeBron RPA /99, inquiring how much it was worth. What's it worth now? He also mentioned that he was looking to get a copy of the LeBron RPA /99 with particular attributes, I think it was a 3 color patch, bold auto and in a BGS 8.5 or maybe 9. Well...surprise, surprise, all of a sudden, before long, Nick has a copy of the card, with those exact attributes that he used to describe what he was looking for under the alias of NYFAN2014 - except, at the time no one knew NYFAN2014 was him. Which makes the following even more hilarious, he posted, using his own name, on some guy's Youtube video saying that it was a 150k card now (at whatever the present time was) - meanwhile, he kept thread bumping inquiring about the value of the card under his alias.

LeBron RPA price check thread, started back in 2016. Ran into 2018. In this thread, around page 3-5 a BGS 9.5 copy is listed for sale...which of course, he doesn't buy lol. (Also associated with Eric Bitz who was sitting on a small pile of these RPAs, Eric is associated with the buyer of the BGS 9.5 at allegedly 250k. LBJ RPAs in that condition then basically got price fixed at 250k+...that's another messy story.) Anyway, Nick as NYFAN2014 no longer bumps the thread after 2018 lol, I really have to wonder how cheap he got the card relative to the speculation.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthrea ... &t=1008759

^^^ There are screen shots of him showing his RPA off in 2018 if I remember correctly. All this is from memory, but I think it's pretty much spot on.


That's his pattern.

Pick up as cheap as possible in secret.

Discuss / hype the card.

Turns out he has the card.]]>
benxcrunner1 wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 10:04 am Even reading that old forum post, I haven't the faintest idea of what Nick U did. I don't know if there is some type of "hobby cabal" but I'm too new to know the history. I'll buy anyone a coffee if they're willing to go in depth on the history of it all but you gotta name names.
There definitely is a group of associates that you could call a cabal. Goes way back to over a decade, close to 15 years now. That's a super long discussion.

Nick seems all about the shilling, price fixing, hyping and I wouldn't trust his MJ camp autos ever.

His main thing that he does is to look at what's selling, acquire whatever the hot card is, then generate as much discussion about the card and its value to raise interest and then it will turn out he has the exact card, or a card matching the description / attributes of a patch / auto that he uses to generate discussion. He will also use aliases and different personas so that he can buy the cards without any one knowing that it's him buying the cards.

Two major examples that have visible evidence behind them are the Jordan PMG red 023/100 and the LeBron James RPA /99. I forget the serial number on Nick's copy, but I'll try to make this short:

In a discussion on Hobby Kings (old school hobby forum that was THE place to be back in the day), now defunct, Nick participated in a thread discussing the Kobe PMG green 008/100. Using a secondary account, he commented that who ever has the Jordan 023/100 should cash in. I think it was a year later, more/less, all of a sudden, using his main account "Gonblott" he makes a thread asking for opinions on a card...which just so happens to be the Jordan PMG red 023/100, wow, what are the odds?! That this same exact guy, out of the billions of people on the planet, happens to land this exact card, with this exact serial number...? He claimed it wasn't his card, but was just looking to get opinions on condition / value. Later in an interview with cardboard chronicles, he talks about acquiring this card coupled with a story about some hooker, or something, out of Vegas got in touch with him about the card lol. The video has since been made private after he got the spotlight on him on the BO forums.

Much later, 2016-2018, using the alias NYFAN2014, he would bump discussion about the LeBron RPA /99, inquiring how much it was worth. What's it worth now? He also mentioned that he was looking to get a copy of the LeBron RPA /99 with particular attributes, I think it was a 3 color patch, bold auto and in a BGS 8.5 or maybe 9. Well...surprise, surprise, all of a sudden, before long, Nick has a copy of the card, with those exact attributes that he used to describe what he was looking for under the alias of NYFAN2014 - except, at the time no one knew NYFAN2014 was him. Which makes the following even more hilarious, he posted, using his own name, on some guy's Youtube video saying that it was a 150k card now (at whatever the present time was) - meanwhile, he kept thread bumping inquiring about the value of the card under his alias.

LeBron RPA price check thread, started back in 2016. Ran into 2018. In this thread, around page 3-5 a BGS 9.5 copy is listed for sale...which of course, he doesn't buy lol. (Also associated with Eric Bitz who was sitting on a small pile of these RPAs, Eric is associated with the buyer of the BGS 9.5 at allegedly 250k. LBJ RPAs in that condition then basically got price fixed at 250k+...that's another messy story.) Anyway, Nick as NYFAN2014 no longer bumps the thread after 2018 lol, I really have to wonder how cheap he got the card relative to the speculation.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthrea ... &t=1008759

^^^ There are screen shots of him showing his RPA off in 2018 if I remember correctly. All this is from memory, but I think it's pretty much spot on.


That's his pattern.

Pick up as cheap as possible in secret.

Discuss / hype the card.

Turns out he has the card.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: Nat Turner posts IG photo with Gonblott aka Nick Uliano :: Reply by benxcrunner1]]> 2025-04-01T11:56:33-05:00 2025-04-01T11:56:33-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2979&p=6648#p6648
I have my gripes with PSA, you know Nat often championing not worrying about the value of your cards and to stop caring about the value and just be interested in collecting, while also having his business PSA up charge the f*** out of you if they can squeeze more grading fees from you based on card value. BUT PSA is at least trying to crack down on grading cards that have been altered or backdoored, more so than any other grading company.

In regards to a hobby cabal. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. If the people on this thread exchanged numbers, and decided we'll each bid on specific cards of each other that we own, raise the comp and then dump at auction once the card is sufficiently pumped / manipulated and split the profits, it wouldn't be that hard at all.]]>

I have my gripes with PSA, you know Nat often championing not worrying about the value of your cards and to stop caring about the value and just be interested in collecting, while also having his business PSA up charge the f*** out of you if they can squeeze more grading fees from you based on card value. BUT PSA is at least trying to crack down on grading cards that have been altered or backdoored, more so than any other grading company.

In regards to a hobby cabal. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. If the people on this thread exchanged numbers, and decided we'll each bid on specific cards of each other that we own, raise the comp and then dump at auction once the card is sufficiently pumped / manipulated and split the profits, it wouldn't be that hard at all.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: Nat Turner posts IG photo with Gonblott aka Nick Uliano :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-01T13:41:55-05:00 2025-04-01T13:41:55-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2979&p=6650#p6650
benxcrunner1 wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:56 am Maybe it just shows the current state of things, that this doesn't even sound all that bad to me. If you're going to let 1 person or a couple pretend people hype up a card and that alone influences you to spend more, well then you're kind of to blame IMO. Many accounts on IG hype and pump shit left and right so it has become normalized. Can't put put pandora back in the box, cards are approaching being accepted as a viable and credible alternative investment / speculative investment. I don't see it ever going back. In some ways I think it is good, but in other ways, the greed fuels more shadiness and dishonesty.

I have my gripes with PSA, you know Nat often championing not worrying about the value of your cards and to stop caring about the value and just be interested in collecting, while also having his business PSA up charge the f*** out of you if they can squeeze more grading fees from you based on card value. BUT PSA is at least trying to crack down on grading cards that have been altered or backdoored, more so than any other grading company.

In regards to a hobby cabal. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. If the people on this thread exchanged numbers, and decided we'll each bid on specific cards of each other that we own, raise the comp and then dump at auction once the card is sufficiently pumped / manipulated and split the profits, it wouldn't be that hard at all.
You mentioned in an earlier post that you're kinda' new, just out of curiosity, when did you start getting into, or back into this hobby? Going off your opening sentence in the first paragraph, sadly, I think that's the state of things for most people who are relatively new, or super new. Keep in mind some of us have never stopped collecting, or have come back to the hobby for over a decade. A lot of people want to fit in and get whatever attention they can, so they just go along with the status quo and then you also have people who are brainless followers, they just don't care, even beyond what we're discussing...they don't care, unless the talking heads care. Sports cards are also a great vehicle for laundering money, I watched something on Pokemon cards (Pokemon is as bad, or worse than basketball in terms of shit heads coopting the hobby) the other day and the Japanese Yakuza actually uses Pokemon cards to launder money state side here in the U.S. You're right, you can't put Pandora back in the box, but that basically signifies that it's a dead hobby, it's a tit for tat on raising prices and creating hype around sets that have been so "underappreciated" ...or "undervalued" as they would put it, for so long. Then you have Fanatics going in the direction of gambling and the NBA not giving two shits...I'd hold on to anything you really like, especially if it's one of those overvalued 90s parallel sets. Related: Check out the attached image...this is everywhere now.

None of this aligns with hobbyist interests:
Screenshot 2025-02-01 at 17-30-44 Sports Card Whale Accused of Shill Bidding - YouTube.png
I can't take anything about PSA trying to crack down seriously until they deactivate the T201 card that they're basically founded on. Turner also hilariously complained about PSA trying to squeeze him on a card he was grading with them and of course, now that he benefits, he's magically seen the light. As for him championing not worrying about value, I have to admit I got a chuckle out of that. He will not sell you anything at market value, ask me how I know. (Never completed a deal though.) As for them cracking down on altered, or backdoored, the heart and soul of that is most likely one of the guys from BODA, known as 90swax.

Re: the hobby cabal, yeah, that's actually what has been happening for about 15 years now. They even got caught doing it. Started with Michael Jordan cards and the shit continues to roll down hill. The same cards would exchange hands within the same circle and the only high selling examples were the ones associated with people in the clique. For any one to even dare to collect Michael Jordan now, you're basically f***ed.

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benxcrunner1 wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:56 am Maybe it just shows the current state of things, that this doesn't even sound all that bad to me. If you're going to let 1 person or a couple pretend people hype up a card and that alone influences you to spend more, well then you're kind of to blame IMO. Many accounts on IG hype and pump shit left and right so it has become normalized. Can't put put pandora back in the box, cards are approaching being accepted as a viable and credible alternative investment / speculative investment. I don't see it ever going back. In some ways I think it is good, but in other ways, the greed fuels more shadiness and dishonesty.

I have my gripes with PSA, you know Nat often championing not worrying about the value of your cards and to stop caring about the value and just be interested in collecting, while also having his business PSA up charge the f*** out of you if they can squeeze more grading fees from you based on card value. BUT PSA is at least trying to crack down on grading cards that have been altered or backdoored, more so than any other grading company.

In regards to a hobby cabal. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. If the people on this thread exchanged numbers, and decided we'll each bid on specific cards of each other that we own, raise the comp and then dump at auction once the card is sufficiently pumped / manipulated and split the profits, it wouldn't be that hard at all.
You mentioned in an earlier post that you're kinda' new, just out of curiosity, when did you start getting into, or back into this hobby? Going off your opening sentence in the first paragraph, sadly, I think that's the state of things for most people who are relatively new, or super new. Keep in mind some of us have never stopped collecting, or have come back to the hobby for over a decade. A lot of people want to fit in and get whatever attention they can, so they just go along with the status quo and then you also have people who are brainless followers, they just don't care, even beyond what we're discussing...they don't care, unless the talking heads care. Sports cards are also a great vehicle for laundering money, I watched something on Pokemon cards (Pokemon is as bad, or worse than basketball in terms of shit heads coopting the hobby) the other day and the Japanese Yakuza actually uses Pokemon cards to launder money state side here in the U.S. You're right, you can't put Pandora back in the box, but that basically signifies that it's a dead hobby, it's a tit for tat on raising prices and creating hype around sets that have been so "underappreciated" ...or "undervalued" as they would put it, for so long. Then you have Fanatics going in the direction of gambling and the NBA not giving two shits...I'd hold on to anything you really like, especially if it's one of those overvalued 90s parallel sets. Related: Check out the attached image...this is everywhere now.

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I can't take anything about PSA trying to crack down seriously until they deactivate the T201 card that they're basically founded on. Turner also hilariously complained about PSA trying to squeeze him on a card he was grading with them and of course, now that he benefits, he's magically seen the light. As for him championing not worrying about value, I have to admit I got a chuckle out of that. He will not sell you anything at market value, ask me how I know. (Never completed a deal though.) As for them cracking down on altered, or backdoored, the heart and soul of that is most likely one of the guys from BODA, known as 90swax.

Re: the hobby cabal, yeah, that's actually what has been happening for about 15 years now. They even got caught doing it. Started with Michael Jordan cards and the shit continues to roll down hill. The same cards would exchange hands within the same circle and the only high selling examples were the ones associated with people in the clique. For any one to even dare to collect Michael Jordan now, you're basically f***ed.

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<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: Nat Turner posts IG photo with Gonblott aka Nick Uliano :: Reply by benxcrunner1]]> 2025-04-01T21:17:51-05:00 2025-04-01T21:17:51-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2979&p=6652#p6652

Another thought I've had recently about all this is how many people who complain about the current state of the card market who either 1. directly caused and contributed to the current state, whether intentionally or unintentionally, and 2. how many people that complain previously reaped the benefits of cards going up in value. There are some people with a large "audience" and platform that are now complaining that cards are too expensive and they want to shrink the hobby lmao.

I do feel for the people who, despite benefiting from cards going up in value, would trade all the money they've made to go back to how things were before all the hype.

Also, appreciate you spelling out a lot of the history Abra.]]>


Another thought I've had recently about all this is how many people who complain about the current state of the card market who either 1. directly caused and contributed to the current state, whether intentionally or unintentionally, and 2. how many people that complain previously reaped the benefits of cards going up in value. There are some people with a large "audience" and platform that are now complaining that cards are too expensive and they want to shrink the hobby lmao.

I do feel for the people who, despite benefiting from cards going up in value, would trade all the money they've made to go back to how things were before all the hype.

Also, appreciate you spelling out a lot of the history Abra.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: Nat Turner posts IG photo with Gonblott aka Nick Uliano :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-09T22:14:09-05:00 2025-04-09T22:14:09-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2979&p=6680#p6680
benxcrunner1 wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:17 pm I got back in around the pandemic. Working from home is great but sometimes boring so I collect to break up the monotony. The whole thing has the drama (sometimes good and sometimes bad) of wrestling or a thrilling TV series... IG - It's entertaining to say the least. It's cool to see passionate collectors share cards and stories that mean something to them. but it can also be like a bad car crash you can't not look at.


Another thought I've had recently about all this is how many people who complain about the current state of the card market who either 1. directly caused and contributed to the current state, whether intentionally or unintentionally, and 2. how many people that complain previously reaped the benefits of cards going up in value. There are some people with a large "audience" and platform that are now complaining that cards are too expensive and they want to shrink the hobby lmao.

I do feel for the people who, despite benefiting from cards going up in value, would trade all the money they've made to go back to how things were before all the hype.

Also, appreciate you spelling out a lot of the history Abra.
Got it, thanks for the reply. Also, no problem, always happy to help.

There's a big player collector that I won't name, because he seems like a genuinely good guy...but I remember reading posts from him on BO and one of the things he'd always mention was "undervalued," about how 'this card' or 'this set' was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO undervalued and then at some point he starts complaining about how cards are so expensive. LOL...wtf!

Everything and I mean EVERYTHING is over valued and hyper-inflated right now and has been for many years. There's not a single thing that is undervalued, this is why you'll see listings of base cards with zillions of copies out there being offered for sale for thousands or tens of thousands of dollars. People are not educated and they just believe that they're sitting on a fortune.
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benxcrunner1 wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:17 pm I got back in around the pandemic. Working from home is great but sometimes boring so I collect to break up the monotony. The whole thing has the drama (sometimes good and sometimes bad) of wrestling or a thrilling TV series... IG - It's entertaining to say the least. It's cool to see passionate collectors share cards and stories that mean something to them. but it can also be like a bad car crash you can't not look at.


Another thought I've had recently about all this is how many people who complain about the current state of the card market who either 1. directly caused and contributed to the current state, whether intentionally or unintentionally, and 2. how many people that complain previously reaped the benefits of cards going up in value. There are some people with a large "audience" and platform that are now complaining that cards are too expensive and they want to shrink the hobby lmao.

I do feel for the people who, despite benefiting from cards going up in value, would trade all the money they've made to go back to how things were before all the hype.

Also, appreciate you spelling out a lot of the history Abra.
Got it, thanks for the reply. Also, no problem, always happy to help.

There's a big player collector that I won't name, because he seems like a genuinely good guy...but I remember reading posts from him on BO and one of the things he'd always mention was "undervalued," about how 'this card' or 'this set' was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO undervalued and then at some point he starts complaining about how cards are so expensive. LOL...wtf!

Everything and I mean EVERYTHING is over valued and hyper-inflated right now and has been for many years. There's not a single thing that is undervalued, this is why you'll see listings of base cards with zillions of copies out there being offered for sale for thousands or tens of thousands of dollars. People are not educated and they just believe that they're sitting on a fortune.
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<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: What is your opinion of Cardladder? :: Author benxcrunner1]]> 2025-03-30T12:35:49-05:00 2025-03-30T12:35:49-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2983&p=6638#p6638 <![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: What is your opinion of Cardladder? :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-01T06:31:48-05:00 2025-04-01T06:31:48-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2983&p=6644#p6644
benxcrunner1 wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:35 am Do you think it does more harm or good for the hobby? I think if they deleted the "CL Value" is would be great, but trying to guess the value of a card seems really really stupid to me, let the collector make their own decision without outside influence.

Card Ladder and unpaid items, worth a read. I don't know what ever transpired of this, but I wouldn't throw them a dime. You're going to see a couple of posters that will astonish you with their blatant stupidity defending the service and telling the guy who got ripped off that he's wrong.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthrea ... &t=1523482

The algorithm that essentially costs you more money, coming from a Jordan hype man. One half of the CL development team. The whole thread is worth a read.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthrea ... 680&page=8

I think the two guys behind card ladder have done vastly more damage than any good. One of them was actually a genuine hobbyist until he sold the hobby out for his own personal gain and the other guy was never a hobbyist, but rather about ROI and a bunch of pseudo intellectual bull shit no one ever cared about. Once you know more about who is behind this thing, you'll be able to make an informed decision, most hobbyists I'm in touch with, from low end and all the way into the heights of the high end, dislike, or despise them.

Alternatives you can use on your own are the eBay sold listings, 130pt.com to check the best offer sales amount, or worth point.]]>
benxcrunner1 wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:35 am Do you think it does more harm or good for the hobby? I think if they deleted the "CL Value" is would be great, but trying to guess the value of a card seems really really stupid to me, let the collector make their own decision without outside influence.

Card Ladder and unpaid items, worth a read. I don't know what ever transpired of this, but I wouldn't throw them a dime. You're going to see a couple of posters that will astonish you with their blatant stupidity defending the service and telling the guy who got ripped off that he's wrong.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthrea ... &t=1523482

The algorithm that essentially costs you more money, coming from a Jordan hype man. One half of the CL development team. The whole thread is worth a read.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthrea ... 680&page=8

I think the two guys behind card ladder have done vastly more damage than any good. One of them was actually a genuine hobbyist until he sold the hobby out for his own personal gain and the other guy was never a hobbyist, but rather about ROI and a bunch of pseudo intellectual bull shit no one ever cared about. Once you know more about who is behind this thing, you'll be able to make an informed decision, most hobbyists I'm in touch with, from low end and all the way into the heights of the high end, dislike, or despise them.

Alternatives you can use on your own are the eBay sold listings, 130pt.com to check the best offer sales amount, or worth point.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: What is your opinion of Cardladder? :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-04-05T20:03:51-05:00 2025-04-05T20:03:51-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2983&p=6661#p6661
1. I don’t understand its existence. Why does anyone feel the need to pay to view comps when resources like Abra referenced are freely available? I gotta think it’s the CL founders monetizing the influence that they for some reason have on collectors.

2. CL index has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. Chris and Josh just decide? which cards are “important” enough to represent a player’s market? What gives them the authority to do that? Talk about a conflict of interest, not quite on the level of Nat Turner and PSA, but I don’t think it’s that far off.

And just overall not a fan of Chris and Josh. Just two more of the seemingly endless “collectors” making it sound like if you’re not collecting the right players/sets/cards then you’re not collecting right. Eww.]]>

1. I don’t understand its existence. Why does anyone feel the need to pay to view comps when resources like Abra referenced are freely available? I gotta think it’s the CL founders monetizing the influence that they for some reason have on collectors.

2. CL index has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. Chris and Josh just decide? which cards are “important” enough to represent a player’s market? What gives them the authority to do that? Talk about a conflict of interest, not quite on the level of Nat Turner and PSA, but I don’t think it’s that far off.

And just overall not a fan of Chris and Josh. Just two more of the seemingly endless “collectors” making it sound like if you’re not collecting the right players/sets/cards then you’re not collecting right. Eww.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: What is your opinion of Cardladder? :: Reply by benxcrunner1]]> 2025-04-09T10:02:45-05:00 2025-04-09T10:02:45-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2983&p=6676#p6676
AbraCalabro wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:31 am
benxcrunner1 wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:35 am Do you think it does more harm or good for the hobby? I think if they deleted the "CL Value" is would be great, but trying to guess the value of a card seems really really stupid to me, let the collector make their own decision without outside influence.

Card Ladder and unpaid items, worth a read. I don't know what ever transpired of this, but I wouldn't throw them a dime. You're going to see a couple of posters that will astonish you with their blatant stupidity defending the service and telling the guy who got ripped off that he's wrong.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthrea ... &t=1523482

The algorithm that essentially costs you more money, coming from a Jordan hype man. One half of the CL development team. The whole thread is worth a read.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthrea ... 680&page=8

I think the two guys behind card ladder have done vastly more damage than any good. One of them was actually a genuine hobbyist until he sold the hobby out for his own personal gain and the other guy was never a hobbyist, but rather about ROI and a bunch of pseudo intellectual bull shit no one ever cared about. Once you know more about who is behind this thing, you'll be able to make an informed decision, most hobbyists I'm in touch with, from low end and all the way into the heights of the high end, dislike, or despise them.

Alternatives you can use on your own are the eBay sold listings, 130pt.com to check the best offer sales amount, or worth point.
Interesting threads. I find that a lot of the cards I buy on ebay never end up on CL so the data is imperfect at best. The CL value is also highly inaccurate. I've had cards I own swing wildly, like thousands of dollars in a single day. I've purchased cards for much cheaper and more expensive than what the so called "algorithm" says they would go for at auction. Not sure where Chris got the data claiming his algo was 80%+ accurate at predicting values...]]>
AbraCalabro wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:31 am
benxcrunner1 wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:35 am Do you think it does more harm or good for the hobby? I think if they deleted the "CL Value" is would be great, but trying to guess the value of a card seems really really stupid to me, let the collector make their own decision without outside influence.

Card Ladder and unpaid items, worth a read. I don't know what ever transpired of this, but I wouldn't throw them a dime. You're going to see a couple of posters that will astonish you with their blatant stupidity defending the service and telling the guy who got ripped off that he's wrong.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthrea ... &t=1523482

The algorithm that essentially costs you more money, coming from a Jordan hype man. One half of the CL development team. The whole thread is worth a read.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthrea ... 680&page=8

I think the two guys behind card ladder have done vastly more damage than any good. One of them was actually a genuine hobbyist until he sold the hobby out for his own personal gain and the other guy was never a hobbyist, but rather about ROI and a bunch of pseudo intellectual bull shit no one ever cared about. Once you know more about who is behind this thing, you'll be able to make an informed decision, most hobbyists I'm in touch with, from low end and all the way into the heights of the high end, dislike, or despise them.

Alternatives you can use on your own are the eBay sold listings, 130pt.com to check the best offer sales amount, or worth point.
Interesting threads. I find that a lot of the cards I buy on ebay never end up on CL so the data is imperfect at best. The CL value is also highly inaccurate. I've had cards I own swing wildly, like thousands of dollars in a single day. I've purchased cards for much cheaper and more expensive than what the so called "algorithm" says they would go for at auction. Not sure where Chris got the data claiming his algo was 80%+ accurate at predicting values...]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: What is your opinion of Cardladder? :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-09T21:58:51-05:00 2025-04-09T21:58:51-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2983&p=6678#p6678
SacKingsCards wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:03 pm I have a lot of scattered thoughts about CardLadder. Hopefully it can come together to form some modicum of coherency.

1. I don’t understand its existence. Why does anyone feel the need to pay to view comps when resources like Abra referenced are freely available? I gotta think it’s the CL founders monetizing the influence that they for some reason have on collectors.

2. CL index has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. Chris and Josh just decide? which cards are “important” enough to represent a player’s market? What gives them the authority to do that? Talk about a conflict of interest, not quite on the level of Nat Turner and PSA, but I don’t think it’s that far off.

And just overall not a fan of Chris and Josh. Just two more of the seemingly endless “collectors” making it sound like if you’re not collecting the right players/sets/cards then you’re not collecting right. Eww.
1 - yeah, knowing who's behind it (JJohnson / Soleternity) and who owns the service, (Nat) it's not something I would ever trust. Seriously, how incestuous is that? So this guy is in charge at PSA, has his own price aggregator and sends his own cards to his own grading company, lmao. Remember when he got called out for favored treatment, getting 10s on cards that didn't look like 10s? Remember when he complained about the up charge scam fee? Does he ever pay the up charge fee (scam) now that he's running the show?

2 - JJohnson, I remember was in the hobby for about 5 minutes and all of a sudden he's an expert selling picks on his website, if I recall correctly, he was charging 29.99 for a 30 minute personal consultation on what newcomers should be buying. It was freaking hilarious, but that's what they all wanted and why they were pushing GaryV as the messiah so hard, because they could capitalize off a bunch of noobs who were already cultists, being brought in by that turd, GaryV. He also had that price pusher Soleternity writing articles on the How to Collect Cards site about ROI, MJ cards, etc.

As for your last point, definitely got elitist vibes from Soleternity.

Did CL also claim to vet private sales as well? I think I recall that being brought up...so if I sell a super expensive Jordan card to my friend for one dollar and show proof the sale happened, are they going to take that into account now? lmao Not likely. That would be a no-no, not allowed to crash the prices, only raise them up.

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thannnnnnks

benxcrunner1 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:02 am Interesting threads. I find that a lot of the cards I buy on ebay never end up on CL so the data is imperfect at best. The CL value is also highly inaccurate. I've had cards I own swing wildly, like thousands of dollars in a single day. I've purchased cards for much cheaper and more expensive than what the so called "algorithm" says they would go for at auction. Not sure where Chris got the data claiming his algo was 80%+ accurate at predicting values...
Thousands of dollars in a single day? Holy crap dude, that's wild. Yeah, seems like that algorithm is a real piece of shit. If I remember correctly, he got the sales data from PWCC, which was a dirty source due to all the shilling. This is 100% confirmed by eBay themselves who kicked PWCC off their platform for shilling. PWCC now is a Fanatics service and it's a safe bet that the shilling is still going on. I have to go back and read the thread, but I vaguely remember him not understanding the point that if the data is from shilled finishing prices that it's not useable to reflect actual values, then doubling down on it.

This is an ongoing problem in general, because the guys who have a lot of money parked in cards don't want to lose money, so they will routinely shill cards up and then you'll find sales that don't seem to have been shilled and the finishing prices are nowhere near the highs, even in comparable condition. It's just all screwed up, which is why I do not find CL or any other aggregator to be trustworthy. Nothing beats education and networking with other genuine hobbyists and using free resources to wade through the muddy waters. <--- this gets you the clear picture, instead of trusting a useless and paid service / aggregator.]]>
SacKingsCards wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 7:03 pm I have a lot of scattered thoughts about CardLadder. Hopefully it can come together to form some modicum of coherency.

1. I don’t understand its existence. Why does anyone feel the need to pay to view comps when resources like Abra referenced are freely available? I gotta think it’s the CL founders monetizing the influence that they for some reason have on collectors.

2. CL index has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. Chris and Josh just decide? which cards are “important” enough to represent a player’s market? What gives them the authority to do that? Talk about a conflict of interest, not quite on the level of Nat Turner and PSA, but I don’t think it’s that far off.

And just overall not a fan of Chris and Josh. Just two more of the seemingly endless “collectors” making it sound like if you’re not collecting the right players/sets/cards then you’re not collecting right. Eww.
1 - yeah, knowing who's behind it (JJohnson / Soleternity) and who owns the service, (Nat) it's not something I would ever trust. Seriously, how incestuous is that? So this guy is in charge at PSA, has his own price aggregator and sends his own cards to his own grading company, lmao. Remember when he got called out for favored treatment, getting 10s on cards that didn't look like 10s? Remember when he complained about the up charge scam fee? Does he ever pay the up charge fee (scam) now that he's running the show?

2 - JJohnson, I remember was in the hobby for about 5 minutes and all of a sudden he's an expert selling picks on his website, if I recall correctly, he was charging 29.99 for a 30 minute personal consultation on what newcomers should be buying. It was freaking hilarious, but that's what they all wanted and why they were pushing GaryV as the messiah so hard, because they could capitalize off a bunch of noobs who were already cultists, being brought in by that turd, GaryV. He also had that price pusher Soleternity writing articles on the How to Collect Cards site about ROI, MJ cards, etc.

As for your last point, definitely got elitist vibes from Soleternity.

Did CL also claim to vet private sales as well? I think I recall that being brought up...so if I sell a super expensive Jordan card to my friend for one dollar and show proof the sale happened, are they going to take that into account now? lmao Not likely. That would be a no-no, not allowed to crash the prices, only raise them up.

relevant:

thannnnnnks

benxcrunner1 wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:02 am Interesting threads. I find that a lot of the cards I buy on ebay never end up on CL so the data is imperfect at best. The CL value is also highly inaccurate. I've had cards I own swing wildly, like thousands of dollars in a single day. I've purchased cards for much cheaper and more expensive than what the so called "algorithm" says they would go for at auction. Not sure where Chris got the data claiming his algo was 80%+ accurate at predicting values...
Thousands of dollars in a single day? Holy crap dude, that's wild. Yeah, seems like that algorithm is a real piece of shit. If I remember correctly, he got the sales data from PWCC, which was a dirty source due to all the shilling. This is 100% confirmed by eBay themselves who kicked PWCC off their platform for shilling. PWCC now is a Fanatics service and it's a safe bet that the shilling is still going on. I have to go back and read the thread, but I vaguely remember him not understanding the point that if the data is from shilled finishing prices that it's not useable to reflect actual values, then doubling down on it.

This is an ongoing problem in general, because the guys who have a lot of money parked in cards don't want to lose money, so they will routinely shill cards up and then you'll find sales that don't seem to have been shilled and the finishing prices are nowhere near the highs, even in comparable condition. It's just all screwed up, which is why I do not find CL or any other aggregator to be trustworthy. Nothing beats education and networking with other genuine hobbyists and using free resources to wade through the muddy waters. <--- this gets you the clear picture, instead of trusting a useless and paid service / aggregator.]]>
<![CDATA[THE HOBBY :: Re: What is your opinion of Cardladder? :: Reply by benxcrunner1]]> 2025-04-10T09:27:18-05:00 2025-04-10T09:27:18-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2983&p=6684#p6684
I should add, I also don't really have a problem with people trying to create something special, it takes guts, just don't misrepresent the capabilities and do listen to the honest criticism that can help you improve. Also have no problem with people making tons of money as long as it is done ethically. I do tend to agree with Abra though, these guys now have a somewhat cult like following, as do many with questionable pasts, seems to really add some $$$ to their bank accounts, but I can't say it's unethical when people willingly give you their money.

Off topic, but in terms of the hobby as a whole, with PSA owning CL and basically printing money, I'm shocked that no major competitors have emerged. PSA is charging $599 to grade any card they deem worth between 5k and 10k, which is based on CL flawed data and past sales. PSA grades a card in roughly 3 -5 minutes. I can't think of another business that you can make $600 in 5 minutes, not the top lawyers or accountants can bill that.]]>

I should add, I also don't really have a problem with people trying to create something special, it takes guts, just don't misrepresent the capabilities and do listen to the honest criticism that can help you improve. Also have no problem with people making tons of money as long as it is done ethically. I do tend to agree with Abra though, these guys now have a somewhat cult like following, as do many with questionable pasts, seems to really add some $$$ to their bank accounts, but I can't say it's unethical when people willingly give you their money.

Off topic, but in terms of the hobby as a whole, with PSA owning CL and basically printing money, I'm shocked that no major competitors have emerged. PSA is charging $599 to grade any card they deem worth between 5k and 10k, which is based on CL flawed data and past sales. PSA grades a card in roughly 3 -5 minutes. I can't think of another business that you can make $600 in 5 minutes, not the top lawyers or accountants can bill that.]]>
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mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:36 pm Spectacular cards guys!

The Net Effect insert set is right on the edge, 99/00 release, but I still really like them. Especially since they and can still be purchased for pretty cheap. Kobe was the last one I needed, just landed it a few months ago. It'll likely be cracked and put into a binder I just need to figure out what else is going in there..

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mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:36 pm Spectacular cards guys!

The Net Effect insert set is right on the edge, 99/00 release, but I still really like them. Especially since they and can still be purchased for pretty cheap. Kobe was the last one I needed, just landed it a few months ago. It'll likely be cracked and put into a binder I just need to figure out what else is going in there..

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What a colorful set, good for any budget that there's no MJ 8-)

Any holofoil on these bad boys?]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: !!!---TOP 10 Cards from your Player Collection---!!! :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-03-20T20:56:19-05:00 2025-03-20T20:56:19-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2528&p=6583#p6583 <![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Starting a new player PC…tips & tricks. :: Reply by SHowley2003]]> 2025-03-23T14:25:49-05:00 2025-03-23T14:25:49-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2971&p=6596#p6596 <![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Were Mindcycle and FrankAZHP abducted by aliens? :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-03-25T21:19:03-05:00 2025-03-25T21:19:03-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2976&p=6618#p6618
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Were Mindcycle and FrankAZHP abducted by aliens? :: Reply by SHowley2003]]> 2025-03-26T18:03:52-05:00 2025-03-26T18:03:52-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2976&p=6621#p6621 <![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Were Mindcycle and FrankAZHP abducted by aliens? :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-03-26T20:46:32-05:00 2025-03-26T20:46:32-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2976&p=6622#p6622
SHowley2003 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 5:03 pm Did you take a break from everything because you were abducted by aliens though?!?
It's hard to tell exactly, but the telltale signs of memory loss and dreams of aliens seem to be there. So, yes I believe I was..]]>
SHowley2003 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 5:03 pm Did you take a break from everything because you were abducted by aliens though?!?
It's hard to tell exactly, but the telltale signs of memory loss and dreams of aliens seem to be there. So, yes I believe I was..]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Were Mindcycle and FrankAZHP abducted by aliens? :: Reply by darz90scardz]]> 2025-03-27T07:29:47-05:00 2025-03-27T07:29:47-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2976&p=6624#p6624 ]]> ]]> <![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Were Mindcycle and FrankAZHP abducted by aliens? :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-28T20:30:25-05:00 2025-03-28T20:30:25-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2976&p=6630#p6630
mindcycle wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:19 pm Lol, just seeing this. Kind of took a break from everything for a bit but i'm back!

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I hear you loud and clear on that!
SHowley2003 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 5:03 pm Did you take a break from everything because you were abducted by aliens though?!?
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mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 7:46 pm
It's hard to tell exactly, but the telltale signs of memory loss and dreams of aliens seem to be there. So, yes I believe I was..

darz90scardz wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 6:29 am Abra old buddy old pal, you should be the last to talk about taking breaks from cards :mrgreen:
lmao i know right

just a wellness check

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mindcycle wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:19 pm Lol, just seeing this. Kind of took a break from everything for a bit but i'm back!

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I hear you loud and clear on that!
SHowley2003 wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 5:03 pm Did you take a break from everything because you were abducted by aliens though?!?
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mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 7:46 pm
It's hard to tell exactly, but the telltale signs of memory loss and dreams of aliens seem to be there. So, yes I believe I was..

darz90scardz wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 6:29 am Abra old buddy old pal, you should be the last to talk about taking breaks from cards :mrgreen:
lmao i know right

just a wellness check

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or is there something else

















out there....






















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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Favorite cards by team, one team at a time in alphabetical order. Share yours as well. :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-03-20T20:47:25-05:00 2025-03-20T20:47:25-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2968&p=6582#p6582 <![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Favorite cards by team, one team at a time in alphabetical order. Share yours as well. :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-04-12T02:39:29-05:00 2025-04-12T02:39:29-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2968&p=6685#p6685
ImageRandolph 4 by Joey Elmasri, on Flickr

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And then a slightly different one for me
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ImageRandolph 4 by Joey Elmasri, on Flickr

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And then a slightly different one for me
Image2019 Morant Select Silver PSA 10 by Joey Elmasri, on Flickr]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-20T16:28:58-05:00 2025-03-20T16:28:58-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6574#p6574
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:21 pm Loving all the classic 90’s Kemp stuff Abra! Those IP autos are where it’s at, super cool.
Thanks dude. I was happy to get that one into the PC, one of my favorite photos too.

Some KG from the PC


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mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:21 pm Loving all the classic 90’s Kemp stuff Abra! Those IP autos are where it’s at, super cool.
Thanks dude. I was happy to get that one into the PC, one of my favorite photos too.

Some KG from the PC


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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-03-20T21:09:12-05:00 2025-03-20T21:09:12-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6585#p6585 <![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-22T22:19:42-05:00 2025-03-22T22:19:42-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6591#p6591
SacKingsCards wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:09 pm Yay, another PC thread, really enjoying it! I'm loving the themed posts. The Kemp autos are my fave, I feel like your passion for them oozes out of my screen. Cool that you got that IP one yourself and the other popped your auto cherry!
Thanks bro, it's fitting that Collector's Choice is one of my favorite designs throughout the years too.


Here's a water fall of colorful 90s, one of my fave sets. I pulled the Shareef myself as a kid. It was a big pull at the time.

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SacKingsCards wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:09 pm Yay, another PC thread, really enjoying it! I'm loving the themed posts. The Kemp autos are my fave, I feel like your passion for them oozes out of my screen. Cool that you got that IP one yourself and the other popped your auto cherry!
Thanks bro, it's fitting that Collector's Choice is one of my favorite designs throughout the years too.


Here's a water fall of colorful 90s, one of my fave sets. I pulled the Shareef myself as a kid. It was a big pull at the time.

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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-23T19:23:35-05:00 2025-03-23T19:23:35-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6600#p6600
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by BucksInSix]]> 2025-03-24T22:49:15-05:00 2025-03-24T22:49:15-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6606#p6606
I chose this set because of the draft class and because of how limited the retail release was. This was an overlooked basic set, not a lot of frills and more targeted for new collectors or lower budget collectors. However, there was a gem to be found if collectors paid attention.

There is no official print run for this set but 12 years after release the population reports show very few graded for each player. My best guess is between 10-15 for each player.

So far I have picked up 45/300. I have some doubles of players and there are probably 50-60 players that I have never seen listed online. I don’t know if I will ever finish the set, but it is always fun to hunt them down and it is a big day when a new piece shows up in the mail.

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I chose this set because of the draft class and because of how limited the retail release was. This was an overlooked basic set, not a lot of frills and more targeted for new collectors or lower budget collectors. However, there was a gem to be found if collectors paid attention.

There is no official print run for this set but 12 years after release the population reports show very few graded for each player. My best guess is between 10-15 for each player.

So far I have picked up 45/300. I have some doubles of players and there are probably 50-60 players that I have never seen listed online. I don’t know if I will ever finish the set, but it is always fun to hunt them down and it is a big day when a new piece shows up in the mail.

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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-24T22:55:03-05:00 2025-03-24T22:55:03-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6607#p6607
BucksInSix wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:49 pm Years ago I decided to attempt to put together the complete 300 card set of 2012/13 Panini Silver Knights from the flagship Panini set. There were 3 parallels in this set Gold Knights were found in hobby and had the highest print run (unnumbered), Black Knights were found in Hobby and serial numbered to 10, and lastly there were Silver Knights which were found in retail only.

I chose this set because of the draft class and because of how limited the retail release was. This was an overlooked basic set, not a lot of frills and more targeted for new collectors or lower budget collectors. However, there was a gem to be found if collectors paid attention.

There is no official print run for this set but 12 years after release the population reports show very few graded for each player. My best guess is between 10-15 for each player.

So far I have picked up 45/300. I have some doubles of players and there are probably 50-60 players that I have never seen listed online. I don’t know if I will ever finish the set, but it is always fun to hunt them down and it is a big day when a new piece shows up in the mail.
Those cards are pretty outstanding because of their design and the simple parallel structure. I'm guessing that Lillard is also a Black Knight parallel, but they had to change the color because of the black background? Or is that Silver Knight?

Do you know of any other collectors putting this set together? I ask because when I was putting together Flair Showcase sets, I had a blast corresponding with other Showcase guys and figuring out some of the quirks with the product over the course of a few years.

Looks like a fun chase, what are the card backs like? Any additional photos, or all text?]]>
BucksInSix wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:49 pm Years ago I decided to attempt to put together the complete 300 card set of 2012/13 Panini Silver Knights from the flagship Panini set. There were 3 parallels in this set Gold Knights were found in hobby and had the highest print run (unnumbered), Black Knights were found in Hobby and serial numbered to 10, and lastly there were Silver Knights which were found in retail only.

I chose this set because of the draft class and because of how limited the retail release was. This was an overlooked basic set, not a lot of frills and more targeted for new collectors or lower budget collectors. However, there was a gem to be found if collectors paid attention.

There is no official print run for this set but 12 years after release the population reports show very few graded for each player. My best guess is between 10-15 for each player.

So far I have picked up 45/300. I have some doubles of players and there are probably 50-60 players that I have never seen listed online. I don’t know if I will ever finish the set, but it is always fun to hunt them down and it is a big day when a new piece shows up in the mail.
Those cards are pretty outstanding because of their design and the simple parallel structure. I'm guessing that Lillard is also a Black Knight parallel, but they had to change the color because of the black background? Or is that Silver Knight?

Do you know of any other collectors putting this set together? I ask because when I was putting together Flair Showcase sets, I had a blast corresponding with other Showcase guys and figuring out some of the quirks with the product over the course of a few years.

Looks like a fun chase, what are the card backs like? Any additional photos, or all text?]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-24T22:57:14-05:00 2025-03-24T22:57:14-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6608#p6608
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This one is a repost, but what a banger. One of the best cards in the set, most of the set isn't really all that and the check list half sucks balls. Gotta' see one of these in person, it's like seeing boobs in real life versus on a computer screen, but I wouldn't know anything about that. Image

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This one is a repost, but what a banger. One of the best cards in the set, most of the set isn't really all that and the check list half sucks balls. Gotta' see one of these in person, it's like seeing boobs in real life versus on a computer screen, but I wouldn't know anything about that. Image

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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by BucksInSix]]> 2025-03-24T23:24:38-05:00 2025-03-24T23:24:38-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6609#p6609
AbraCalabro wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:55 pm
Those cards are pretty outstanding because of their design and the simple parallel structure. I'm guessing that Lillard is also a Black Knight parallel, but they had to change the color because of the black background? Or is that Silver Knight?

Do you know of any other collectors putting this set together? I ask because when I was putting together Flair Showcase sets, I had a blast corresponding with other Showcase guys and figuring out some of the quirks with the product over the course of a few years.

Looks like a fun chase, what are the card backs like? Any additional photos, or all text?
The Lillard is a Silver Knight. I don’t have any of the Black Knights, but it looks like they did black on black for those based on the Thomas (pic below).

I do know there are a few others collecting the set and I was able to do some trading about a year ago to help fill some holes using doubles. I think the toughest adversaries when picking up new cards seem to be the player collectors. A LeBron got listed about a month ago and ended up getting bid up to $291 which was shocking to see.

Also added a picture of base, gold and silver for AD as well as a pic of the back.

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AbraCalabro wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:55 pm
Those cards are pretty outstanding because of their design and the simple parallel structure. I'm guessing that Lillard is also a Black Knight parallel, but they had to change the color because of the black background? Or is that Silver Knight?

Do you know of any other collectors putting this set together? I ask because when I was putting together Flair Showcase sets, I had a blast corresponding with other Showcase guys and figuring out some of the quirks with the product over the course of a few years.

Looks like a fun chase, what are the card backs like? Any additional photos, or all text?
The Lillard is a Silver Knight. I don’t have any of the Black Knights, but it looks like they did black on black for those based on the Thomas (pic below).

I do know there are a few others collecting the set and I was able to do some trading about a year ago to help fill some holes using doubles. I think the toughest adversaries when picking up new cards seem to be the player collectors. A LeBron got listed about a month ago and ended up getting bid up to $291 which was shocking to see.

Also added a picture of base, gold and silver for AD as well as a pic of the back.

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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-03-25T17:40:29-05:00 2025-03-25T17:40:29-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6612#p6612
AbraCalabro wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 9:19 pm Here's a water fall of colorful 90s, one of my fave sets. I pulled the Shareef myself as a kid. It was a big pull at the time.

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Love these! Definitely a big pull back in the day]]>
AbraCalabro wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 9:19 pm Here's a water fall of colorful 90s, one of my fave sets. I pulled the Shareef myself as a kid. It was a big pull at the time.

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Love these! Definitely a big pull back in the day]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-03-25T17:45:27-05:00 2025-03-25T17:45:27-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6613#p6613
BucksInSix wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:49 pm Years ago I decided to attempt to put together the complete 300 card set of 2012/13 Panini Silver Knights from the flagship Panini set. There were 3 parallels in this set Gold Knights were found in hobby and had the highest print run (unnumbered), Black Knights were found in Hobby and serial numbered to 10, and lastly there were Silver Knights which were found in retail only.

I chose this set because of the draft class and because of how limited the retail release was. This was an overlooked basic set, not a lot of frills and more targeted for new collectors or lower budget collectors. However, there was a gem to be found if collectors paid attention.

There is no official print run for this set but 12 years after release the population reports show very few graded for each player. My best guess is between 10-15 for each player.

So far I have picked up 45/300. I have some doubles of players and there are probably 50-60 players that I have never seen listed online. I don’t know if I will ever finish the set, but it is always fun to hunt them down and it is a big day when a new piece shows up in the mail.
Very cool set chase! I love chases like this where the cards are sneaky rare and you aren't getting shill bid on eBay chasing them down because none of those guys know about them, lol. I'm sure that makes it harder to find but might actually be more fun due to that.

Make you wonder how many of these ended up in a trash pile because they are unnumbered and the average person probably had no idea they even pulled a parallel.]]>
BucksInSix wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:49 pm Years ago I decided to attempt to put together the complete 300 card set of 2012/13 Panini Silver Knights from the flagship Panini set. There were 3 parallels in this set Gold Knights were found in hobby and had the highest print run (unnumbered), Black Knights were found in Hobby and serial numbered to 10, and lastly there were Silver Knights which were found in retail only.

I chose this set because of the draft class and because of how limited the retail release was. This was an overlooked basic set, not a lot of frills and more targeted for new collectors or lower budget collectors. However, there was a gem to be found if collectors paid attention.

There is no official print run for this set but 12 years after release the population reports show very few graded for each player. My best guess is between 10-15 for each player.

So far I have picked up 45/300. I have some doubles of players and there are probably 50-60 players that I have never seen listed online. I don’t know if I will ever finish the set, but it is always fun to hunt them down and it is a big day when a new piece shows up in the mail.
Very cool set chase! I love chases like this where the cards are sneaky rare and you aren't getting shill bid on eBay chasing them down because none of those guys know about them, lol. I'm sure that makes it harder to find but might actually be more fun due to that.

Make you wonder how many of these ended up in a trash pile because they are unnumbered and the average person probably had no idea they even pulled a parallel.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-03-25T17:49:11-05:00 2025-03-25T17:49:11-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6614#p6614
AbraCalabro wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:57 pm ...and since I'm logged in, some VC in the house. One of my favorite, straight forward designs, in parallel form. UDX 10th Anniversary.

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You'll like this one I think. Peep the serial #..

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AbraCalabro wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:57 pm ...and since I'm logged in, some VC in the house. One of my favorite, straight forward designs, in parallel form. UDX 10th Anniversary.

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You'll like this one I think. Peep the serial #..

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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-25T19:41:32-05:00 2025-03-25T19:41:32-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6616#p6616
mindcycle wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:49 pm
AbraCalabro wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:57 pm ...and since I'm logged in, some VC in the house. One of my favorite, straight forward designs, in parallel form. UDX 10th Anniversary.

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You'll like this one I think. Peep the serial #..

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dude that is SICK, one of the best photos in that set too.]]>
mindcycle wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:49 pm
AbraCalabro wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:57 pm ...and since I'm logged in, some VC in the house. One of my favorite, straight forward designs, in parallel form. UDX 10th Anniversary.

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You'll like this one I think. Peep the serial #..

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dude that is SICK, one of the best photos in that set too.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-25T19:44:38-05:00 2025-03-25T19:44:38-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6617#p6617
BucksInSix wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:24 pm
The Lillard is a Silver Knight. I don’t have any of the Black Knights, but it looks like they did black on black for those based on the Thomas (pic below).

I do know there are a few others collecting the set and I was able to do some trading about a year ago to help fill some holes using doubles. I think the toughest adversaries when picking up new cards seem to be the player collectors. A LeBron got listed about a month ago and ended up getting bid up to $291 which was shocking to see.

Also added a picture of base, gold and silver for AD as well as a pic of the back.
Got it, I like that they actually included a photo on the back, even if it is recycled.

The black on black foil probably looks sweet in person. If I understood correctly, the LeBron that got listed recently and went for 291 was a Black Knight?]]>
BucksInSix wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:24 pm
The Lillard is a Silver Knight. I don’t have any of the Black Knights, but it looks like they did black on black for those based on the Thomas (pic below).

I do know there are a few others collecting the set and I was able to do some trading about a year ago to help fill some holes using doubles. I think the toughest adversaries when picking up new cards seem to be the player collectors. A LeBron got listed about a month ago and ended up getting bid up to $291 which was shocking to see.

Also added a picture of base, gold and silver for AD as well as a pic of the back.
Got it, I like that they actually included a photo on the back, even if it is recycled.

The black on black foil probably looks sweet in person. If I understood correctly, the LeBron that got listed recently and went for 291 was a Black Knight?]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by BucksInSix]]> 2025-03-26T21:20:31-05:00 2025-03-26T21:20:31-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6623#p6623
AbraCalabro wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:44 pm
BucksInSix wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:24 pm
The Lillard is a Silver Knight. I don’t have any of the Black Knights, but it looks like they did black on black for those based on the Thomas (pic below).

I do know there are a few others collecting the set and I was able to do some trading about a year ago to help fill some holes using doubles. I think the toughest adversaries when picking up new cards seem to be the player collectors. A LeBron got listed about a month ago and ended up getting bid up to $291 which was shocking to see.

Also added a picture of base, gold and silver for AD as well as a pic of the back.
Got it, I like that they actually included a photo on the back, even if it is recycled.

The black on black foil probably looks sweet in person. If I understood correctly, the LeBron that got listed recently and went for 291 was a Black Knight?
The LeBron sale was the Silver Knight version. I haven’t seen a Black Knight LeBron since 2015-16ish.]]>
AbraCalabro wrote: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:44 pm
BucksInSix wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:24 pm
The Lillard is a Silver Knight. I don’t have any of the Black Knights, but it looks like they did black on black for those based on the Thomas (pic below).

I do know there are a few others collecting the set and I was able to do some trading about a year ago to help fill some holes using doubles. I think the toughest adversaries when picking up new cards seem to be the player collectors. A LeBron got listed about a month ago and ended up getting bid up to $291 which was shocking to see.

Also added a picture of base, gold and silver for AD as well as a pic of the back.
Got it, I like that they actually included a photo on the back, even if it is recycled.

The black on black foil probably looks sweet in person. If I understood correctly, the LeBron that got listed recently and went for 291 was a Black Knight?
The LeBron sale was the Silver Knight version. I haven’t seen a Black Knight LeBron since 2015-16ish.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by darz90scardz]]> 2025-03-27T07:36:26-05:00 2025-03-27T07:36:26-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6626#p6626 <![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-28T20:33:59-05:00 2025-03-28T20:33:59-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6631#p6631
BucksInSix wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:20 pm The LeBron sale was the Silver Knight version. I haven’t seen a Black Knight LeBron since 2015-16ish.
Damn, I was going to say, that doesn't seem TOO bad for a LBJ Black Knight, but that seems like quite a bit for a silver lol.
darz90scardz wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 6:36 am +1 on Rising Stars, and the set looks so good all together like that.
Thanks dude. Maybe I'll piece together the Gold Medallion from 95/96 at some point, love the design on that one too.

I don't know why these aren't more popular, but no big deal for me. Oddly, those U.D. Chronology cards, or whatever they're called are super popular, but I never liked those...similar concepts for the card surface.]]>
BucksInSix wrote: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:20 pm The LeBron sale was the Silver Knight version. I haven’t seen a Black Knight LeBron since 2015-16ish.
Damn, I was going to say, that doesn't seem TOO bad for a LBJ Black Knight, but that seems like quite a bit for a silver lol.
darz90scardz wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 6:36 am +1 on Rising Stars, and the set looks so good all together like that.
Thanks dude. Maybe I'll piece together the Gold Medallion from 95/96 at some point, love the design on that one too.

I don't know why these aren't more popular, but no big deal for me. Oddly, those U.D. Chronology cards, or whatever they're called are super popular, but I never liked those...similar concepts for the card surface.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-02T19:00:23-05:00 2025-04-02T19:00:23-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6655#p6655
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-04-07T10:35:47-05:00 2025-04-07T10:35:47-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6669#p6669
AbraCalabro wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 6:00 pm Today, we've got the Great White Hope himself, KVH

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Nice!

We need to get kukocitb over here.]]>
AbraCalabro wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 6:00 pm Today, we've got the Great White Hope himself, KVH

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Nice!

We need to get kukocitb over here.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-09T22:20:43-05:00 2025-04-09T22:20:43-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6683#p6683
mindcycle wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 9:35 am
AbraCalabro wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 6:00 pm Today, we've got the Great White Hope himself, KVH

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Nice!

We need to get kukocitb over here.
Thanks dude and yes I agree, but I think he loves IG. These guys just need to post here more often, deadshot should post more often and we need to get geech, GOATcards, etc. over here.]]>
mindcycle wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 9:35 am
AbraCalabro wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 6:00 pm Today, we've got the Great White Hope himself, KVH

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Nice!

We need to get kukocitb over here.
Thanks dude and yes I agree, but I think he loves IG. These guys just need to post here more often, deadshot should post more often and we need to get geech, GOATcards, etc. over here.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-14T20:11:50-05:00 2025-04-14T20:11:50-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6688#p6688
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Rolling PC thread :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-15T13:50:04-05:00 2025-04-15T13:50:04-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2978&p=6690#p6690

These cards are SOOOOO cute omg
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These cards are SOOOOO cute omg
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: My Kings (+More) Collection :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-03-20T20:23:15-05:00 2025-03-20T20:23:15-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2967&p=6581#p6581
darz90scardz wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:29 pm
Lol, I just love that year of Pristine and Finest. Those are products I wish I didn't miss out on back then, maybe that's why I'm so drawn to his lot. Still dig the other stuff though. I don't think I've ever seen that Contenders cracked ice/atomic set either, dope ass Webber. Could easily pass as some late 90s Bowman's atomic insert that never was.

But yea, the mj trilogy gold has a tinge of green, I was aware of it but it was still a bit of an impulse buy on FB. I rarely buy stuff without knowing at least some comps. I figured it was a good buy since it goes for about the same as his 1999 Ultimate Collection which is also /100, with the added benefit of not having 20 different friggin cards in the set. Have you ever seen the /10 versions in hand? Curious how those look.

Another one of my favorite UD sets - Hologrfx (Holofame in particular) - suffers from the same greening bs.
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Thanks all around. What stands out is the Webber comments just cuz it's Panini praise :lol: So the 99 ultimate has 20 MJs?? That's pretty wild, I feel like UD got way too crazy with the MJs in the late 90s and maybe even through the 2000s. So diluting of those cards. But MJ cards are a can of worms I've never opened because of its enormity. I've never seen the Trilogy /10s in hand. I feel like those early and mid 00s UD rainbow spectrums (?) /10 are impossible to find.

Didn't know the Holofames were prone to that too. I feel like my JWill does have a subtle hint of the greening.
AbraCalabro wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:43 pm
OMG

That Chrome Gold is so A-E-S-T-H-E-T-I-C and that Patch is so JUICY. Pairs so well with the green foil.


I looked up the Holofame set, ...man...........I think I'm going to have to hunt down a AUsome KG and VC at some point. Still flirting with a 98 Kobe and MJ WarpZone...I want to add the MJ Skyonix too, but the prices are giga-retarded on the Skyonix.
Thank you Abra! I actually much prefer the Finest gold to the chrome. The Finest is just a lot more vibrant and bright. The Chrome feels a little dull. Regarding the patch, the purple Kings colors with green parallels are among my favorite color combos on a card! Chunky patches help of course :D]]>
darz90scardz wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 1:29 pm
Lol, I just love that year of Pristine and Finest. Those are products I wish I didn't miss out on back then, maybe that's why I'm so drawn to his lot. Still dig the other stuff though. I don't think I've ever seen that Contenders cracked ice/atomic set either, dope ass Webber. Could easily pass as some late 90s Bowman's atomic insert that never was.

But yea, the mj trilogy gold has a tinge of green, I was aware of it but it was still a bit of an impulse buy on FB. I rarely buy stuff without knowing at least some comps. I figured it was a good buy since it goes for about the same as his 1999 Ultimate Collection which is also /100, with the added benefit of not having 20 different friggin cards in the set. Have you ever seen the /10 versions in hand? Curious how those look.

Another one of my favorite UD sets - Hologrfx (Holofame in particular) - suffers from the same greening bs.
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Thanks all around. What stands out is the Webber comments just cuz it's Panini praise :lol: So the 99 ultimate has 20 MJs?? That's pretty wild, I feel like UD got way too crazy with the MJs in the late 90s and maybe even through the 2000s. So diluting of those cards. But MJ cards are a can of worms I've never opened because of its enormity. I've never seen the Trilogy /10s in hand. I feel like those early and mid 00s UD rainbow spectrums (?) /10 are impossible to find.

Didn't know the Holofames were prone to that too. I feel like my JWill does have a subtle hint of the greening.
AbraCalabro wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:43 pm
OMG

That Chrome Gold is so A-E-S-T-H-E-T-I-C and that Patch is so JUICY. Pairs so well with the green foil.


I looked up the Holofame set, ...man...........I think I'm going to have to hunt down a AUsome KG and VC at some point. Still flirting with a 98 Kobe and MJ WarpZone...I want to add the MJ Skyonix too, but the prices are giga-retarded on the Skyonix.
Thank you Abra! I actually much prefer the Finest gold to the chrome. The Finest is just a lot more vibrant and bright. The Chrome feels a little dull. Regarding the patch, the purple Kings colors with green parallels are among my favorite color combos on a card! Chunky patches help of course :D]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: My Kings (+More) Collection :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-22T22:23:41-05:00 2025-03-22T22:23:41-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2967&p=6592#p6592
SacKingsCards wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:23 pm
Thank you Abra! I actually much prefer the Finest gold to the chrome. The Finest is just a lot more vibrant and bright. The Chrome feels a little dull. Regarding the patch, the purple Kings colors with green parallels are among my favorite color combos on a card! Chunky patches help of course :D
Honestly looking at them again, it does look a lot more shiny, but I am a sucker for aesthetics, it's such a clean design. Plus...purple and gold, sick combo...although as a Kings fan, I'm guessing purple AND gold are enemy colors lol.

I want to get a Chrome gold of VC, or KG at some point, since I've focused on the Reignman solely for the past however many years, I never really picked up much outside of stuff he was included in.

Looking forward to more stuff!]]>
SacKingsCards wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:23 pm
Thank you Abra! I actually much prefer the Finest gold to the chrome. The Finest is just a lot more vibrant and bright. The Chrome feels a little dull. Regarding the patch, the purple Kings colors with green parallels are among my favorite color combos on a card! Chunky patches help of course :D
Honestly looking at them again, it does look a lot more shiny, but I am a sucker for aesthetics, it's such a clean design. Plus...purple and gold, sick combo...although as a Kings fan, I'm guessing purple AND gold are enemy colors lol.

I want to get a Chrome gold of VC, or KG at some point, since I've focused on the Reignman solely for the past however many years, I never really picked up much outside of stuff he was included in.

Looking forward to more stuff!]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: My Kings (+More) Collection :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-04-06T01:37:40-05:00 2025-04-06T01:37:40-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2967&p=6664#p6664
AbraCalabro wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 9:23 pm Honestly looking at them again, it does look a lot more shiny, but I am a sucker for aesthetics, it's such a clean design. Plus...purple and gold, sick combo...although as a Kings fan, I'm guessing purple AND gold are enemy colors lol.

I want to get a Chrome gold of VC, or KG at some point, since I've focused on the Reignman solely for the past however many years, I never really picked up much outside of stuff he was included in.

Looking forward to more stuff!
Ha, when you mentioned purple and gold, I actually didn't think of the Lakers but it did elicit some reaction...that's definitely why :lol: I don't know what it is, but I actually might prefer green and purple on cards. It may just be my subconscious pushing me away from gold since that's what the masses like. Good luck on the KG or VC golds, I"m sure those would cost a pretty penny. I do think golds have become so...overvalued. Definitely look great but so pumped.

Hope to do a small update tonight...and then a very big one after that]]>
AbraCalabro wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 9:23 pm Honestly looking at them again, it does look a lot more shiny, but I am a sucker for aesthetics, it's such a clean design. Plus...purple and gold, sick combo...although as a Kings fan, I'm guessing purple AND gold are enemy colors lol.

I want to get a Chrome gold of VC, or KG at some point, since I've focused on the Reignman solely for the past however many years, I never really picked up much outside of stuff he was included in.

Looking forward to more stuff!
Ha, when you mentioned purple and gold, I actually didn't think of the Lakers but it did elicit some reaction...that's definitely why :lol: I don't know what it is, but I actually might prefer green and purple on cards. It may just be my subconscious pushing me away from gold since that's what the masses like. Good luck on the KG or VC golds, I"m sure those would cost a pretty penny. I do think golds have become so...overvalued. Definitely look great but so pumped.

Hope to do a small update tonight...and then a very big one after that]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: My Kings (+More) Collection :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-04-06T17:44:55-05:00 2025-04-06T17:44:55-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2967&p=6666#p6666
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Only three Wallace cards at the moment in the PC, but with one of them being his Topps MVP Promo rookie and another being his lowest number topps pristine refractor RC /250 (overall lowest numbered rc refractor aside from his chrome black which is /50), feels like a decent trio. Wallace will be one of the players who will be majorly featured in this week's lot pickup.]]>

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Only three Wallace cards at the moment in the PC, but with one of them being his Topps MVP Promo rookie and another being his lowest number topps pristine refractor RC /250 (overall lowest numbered rc refractor aside from his chrome black which is /50), feels like a decent trio. Wallace will be one of the players who will be majorly featured in this week's lot pickup.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: My Kings (+More) Collection :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-04-18T12:20:34-05:00 2025-04-18T12:20:34-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2967&p=6740#p6740
I'll definitely keep an eye out for Kings MVP promos for you. They don't pop up all that often anymore sadly.]]>

I'll definitely keep an eye out for Kings MVP promos for you. They don't pop up all that often anymore sadly.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-20T16:25:20-05:00 2025-03-20T16:25:20-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6573#p6573
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:43 pm Got this one in recently for a decent price now that Panini 1'1/s are flooding the market, lol. For as many 1/1 parallels that Panini has put out, I feel like the black 1/1 will always be the go to for their "era" of bball cards.

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Sweet pickup, great backdrop for the card too. Agree on the black 1/1 as 'the' 1/1 parallel for their era.
BucksInSix wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:57 pm First thing, thank you to mindcycle for bringing back forum style discussion for sports cards. I remember as a kid scrolling through the Beckett forums daily and making some of my first trades. Anyway, I look forward to making some posts on current pickups and posting some of the sets I have been working on over the years.

Onto my mailday. This popped up on Mercari the other day for $25 and I grabbed it as fast as I could. Then I waited until the tracking finally went active and it shipped.

Flight Team was an insert set from 2004/05 Upper Deck and was made up of 50 players. The base version of these have a blue background and were fairly common. However, there were two parallels that were a little more difficult to find. Onyx had a Smokey black background as is serial numbered to a players jersey number. There were no stated odds for this parallel. There is also a rainbow parallel which has a foil rainbow finish and a red background. These were inserted 1:1000 packs (roughly 1 in 4 cases) and odds of 1:50,000 packs for a specific player.

Enough with the rambling, here is the find that I am thrilled to add to my collection:
Welcome aboard! What a hit! Thanks for posting some information / history on the card for those of us not familiar, which would certainly include me. That rainbow parallel must look killer in the light!

Looking forward to seeing some more of your collection.]]>
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:43 pm Got this one in recently for a decent price now that Panini 1'1/s are flooding the market, lol. For as many 1/1 parallels that Panini has put out, I feel like the black 1/1 will always be the go to for their "era" of bball cards.

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Sweet pickup, great backdrop for the card too. Agree on the black 1/1 as 'the' 1/1 parallel for their era.
BucksInSix wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:57 pm First thing, thank you to mindcycle for bringing back forum style discussion for sports cards. I remember as a kid scrolling through the Beckett forums daily and making some of my first trades. Anyway, I look forward to making some posts on current pickups and posting some of the sets I have been working on over the years.

Onto my mailday. This popped up on Mercari the other day for $25 and I grabbed it as fast as I could. Then I waited until the tracking finally went active and it shipped.

Flight Team was an insert set from 2004/05 Upper Deck and was made up of 50 players. The base version of these have a blue background and were fairly common. However, there were two parallels that were a little more difficult to find. Onyx had a Smokey black background as is serial numbered to a players jersey number. There were no stated odds for this parallel. There is also a rainbow parallel which has a foil rainbow finish and a red background. These were inserted 1:1000 packs (roughly 1 in 4 cases) and odds of 1:50,000 packs for a specific player.

Enough with the rambling, here is the find that I am thrilled to add to my collection:
Welcome aboard! What a hit! Thanks for posting some information / history on the card for those of us not familiar, which would certainly include me. That rainbow parallel must look killer in the light!

Looking forward to seeing some more of your collection.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-03-20T21:07:08-05:00 2025-03-20T21:07:08-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6584#p6584
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:43 pm Got this one in recently for a decent price now that Panini 1'1/s are flooding the market, lol. For as many 1/1 parallels that Panini has put out, I feel like the black 1/1 will always be the go to for their "era" of bball cards.
Love that card. The laser effect juxtaposed atop the game photo is unbeatable. Not sure if you know I'm absolutely laser-obsessed. Interesting that you say that black is their go to 1/1. I feel like it's Nebula or Gold VInyl. Nebula just because of the aesthetics and gold vinyl because it is the superfractor effect.
BucksInSix wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:57 pm First thing, thank you to mindcycle for bringing back forum style discussion for sports cards. I remember as a kid scrolling through the Beckett forums daily and making some of my first trades. Anyway, I look forward to making some posts on current pickups and posting some of the sets I have been working on over the years.

Onto my mailday. This popped up on Mercari the other day for $25 and I grabbed it as fast as I could. Then I waited until the tracking finally went active and it shipped.

Flight Team was an insert set from 2004/05 Upper Deck and was made up of 50 players. The base version of these have a blue background and were fairly common. However, there were two parallels that were a little more difficult to find. Onyx had a Smokey black background as is serial numbered to a players jersey number. There were no stated odds for this parallel. There is also a rainbow parallel which has a foil rainbow finish and a red background. These were inserted 1:1000 packs (roughly 1 in 4 cases) and odds of 1:50,000 packs for a specific player.

Enough with the rambling, here is the find that I am thrilled to add to my collection:
Welcome, and what a way to start off with a bang! I'm only familiar with the base flight teams, so thanks for educating us on the set. That background is so pretty on the card; and seems really theme fitting. Nice find on Mercari! How do you navigate searching for cards on there? I've tried it a couple times but never really found anything.]]>
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:43 pm Got this one in recently for a decent price now that Panini 1'1/s are flooding the market, lol. For as many 1/1 parallels that Panini has put out, I feel like the black 1/1 will always be the go to for their "era" of bball cards.
Love that card. The laser effect juxtaposed atop the game photo is unbeatable. Not sure if you know I'm absolutely laser-obsessed. Interesting that you say that black is their go to 1/1. I feel like it's Nebula or Gold VInyl. Nebula just because of the aesthetics and gold vinyl because it is the superfractor effect.
BucksInSix wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:57 pm First thing, thank you to mindcycle for bringing back forum style discussion for sports cards. I remember as a kid scrolling through the Beckett forums daily and making some of my first trades. Anyway, I look forward to making some posts on current pickups and posting some of the sets I have been working on over the years.

Onto my mailday. This popped up on Mercari the other day for $25 and I grabbed it as fast as I could. Then I waited until the tracking finally went active and it shipped.

Flight Team was an insert set from 2004/05 Upper Deck and was made up of 50 players. The base version of these have a blue background and were fairly common. However, there were two parallels that were a little more difficult to find. Onyx had a Smokey black background as is serial numbered to a players jersey number. There were no stated odds for this parallel. There is also a rainbow parallel which has a foil rainbow finish and a red background. These were inserted 1:1000 packs (roughly 1 in 4 cases) and odds of 1:50,000 packs for a specific player.

Enough with the rambling, here is the find that I am thrilled to add to my collection:
Welcome, and what a way to start off with a bang! I'm only familiar with the base flight teams, so thanks for educating us on the set. That background is so pretty on the card; and seems really theme fitting. Nice find on Mercari! How do you navigate searching for cards on there? I've tried it a couple times but never really found anything.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by ChrisP57]]> 2025-03-20T22:09:10-05:00 2025-03-20T22:09:10-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6586#p6586
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:43 pm Got this one in recently for a decent price now that Panini 1'1/s are flooding the market, lol. For as many 1/1 parallels that Panini has put out, I feel like the black 1/1 will always be the go to for their "era" of bball cards.

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Donruss Lasers are some of my favorite parallels in basketball, this black one is amazing!]]>
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:43 pm Got this one in recently for a decent price now that Panini 1'1/s are flooding the market, lol. For as many 1/1 parallels that Panini has put out, I feel like the black 1/1 will always be the go to for their "era" of bball cards.

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Donruss Lasers are some of my favorite parallels in basketball, this black one is amazing!]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-03-20T22:23:46-05:00 2025-03-20T22:23:46-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6587#p6587
ChrisP57 wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:09 pm
Donruss Lasers are some of my favorite parallels in basketball, this black one is amazing!
Happy to hear I'm not alone, I also didn't realize they were well liked. Pleasant surprise!]]>
ChrisP57 wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:09 pm
Donruss Lasers are some of my favorite parallels in basketball, this black one is amazing!
Happy to hear I'm not alone, I also didn't realize they were well liked. Pleasant surprise!]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-03-20T22:53:05-05:00 2025-03-20T22:53:05-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6588#p6588
SacKingsCards wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:07 pmLove that card. The laser effect juxtaposed atop the game photo is unbeatable. Not sure if you know I'm absolutely laser-obsessed. Interesting that you say that black is their go to 1/1. I feel like it's Nebula or Gold VInyl. Nebula just because of the aesthetics and gold vinyl because it is the superfractor effect.
I definitely like both nebula and gold vinyls. In many cases I think they look much better than black 1/1’s. The reason I associate black 1/1’s with Panini is more the fact that that parallel type has been consistently around the longest. At least as far as I’m aware. I believe 13-14 was the first time they showed up in Prizm if I’m not mistaken. Then that was the staple Prizm 1/1 until they realized they could pump out multiple “1/1’s” and no nobody cared because cards were an “investment” all the sudden, and who cares what it looked like, you pulled a 1/1! Even though it’s really not because 5 other variations exist.. 😄

I do believe 11-12 stuff had black 1/1’s as well, and maybe 10-11 & 09-10.. I’ll have to go back and look. Then I also remember when they used the black foil in stuff like Flawless and the like. Which was horrible looking btw.. 😂

Now that I think about it, platinum might be a contender as well. Although I do think I remember some years where those didn’t show up as much and were more spread out to specific releases.]]>
SacKingsCards wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:07 pmLove that card. The laser effect juxtaposed atop the game photo is unbeatable. Not sure if you know I'm absolutely laser-obsessed. Interesting that you say that black is their go to 1/1. I feel like it's Nebula or Gold VInyl. Nebula just because of the aesthetics and gold vinyl because it is the superfractor effect.
I definitely like both nebula and gold vinyls. In many cases I think they look much better than black 1/1’s. The reason I associate black 1/1’s with Panini is more the fact that that parallel type has been consistently around the longest. At least as far as I’m aware. I believe 13-14 was the first time they showed up in Prizm if I’m not mistaken. Then that was the staple Prizm 1/1 until they realized they could pump out multiple “1/1’s” and no nobody cared because cards were an “investment” all the sudden, and who cares what it looked like, you pulled a 1/1! Even though it’s really not because 5 other variations exist.. 😄

I do believe 11-12 stuff had black 1/1’s as well, and maybe 10-11 & 09-10.. I’ll have to go back and look. Then I also remember when they used the black foil in stuff like Flawless and the like. Which was horrible looking btw.. 😂

Now that I think about it, platinum might be a contender as well. Although I do think I remember some years where those didn’t show up as much and were more spread out to specific releases.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by ChrisP57]]> 2025-03-22T11:05:54-05:00 2025-03-22T11:05:54-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6590#p6590
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-22T22:26:35-05:00 2025-03-22T22:26:35-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6594#p6594
ChrisP57 wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 10:05 am Shai Rookie Pickup. Elite Gold Rookie from Chronicles

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ChrisP57 wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 10:05 am Shai Rookie Pickup. Elite Gold Rookie from Chronicles

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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by darz90scardz]]> 2025-03-27T07:34:00-05:00 2025-03-27T07:34:00-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6625#p6625
topgemcards wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:10 pm Latest mailday! High Voltage 500
Ummmm, yep, that’ll doer.



For the longest time I thought I had this already, but nope.
Thanks Whatnot.
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topgemcards wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:10 pm Latest mailday! High Voltage 500
Ummmm, yep, that’ll doer.



For the longest time I thought I had this already, but nope.
Thanks Whatnot.
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by BucksInSix]]> 2025-03-27T12:03:25-05:00 2025-03-27T12:03:25-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6627#p6627
darz90scardz wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 6:34 am
topgemcards wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:10 pm Latest mailday! High Voltage 500
Ummmm, yep, that’ll doer.



For the longest time I thought I had this already, but nope.
Thanks Whatnot.

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That’s a great looking card. I hope we see some thoughtful inserts coming from Topps/Fanatics next year.]]>
darz90scardz wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 6:34 am
topgemcards wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:10 pm Latest mailday! High Voltage 500
Ummmm, yep, that’ll doer.



For the longest time I thought I had this already, but nope.
Thanks Whatnot.

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That’s a great looking card. I hope we see some thoughtful inserts coming from Topps/Fanatics next year.]]>
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by ChrisP57]]> 2025-03-27T18:35:16-05:00 2025-03-27T18:35:16-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6629#p6629
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-28T20:37:11-05:00 2025-03-28T20:37:11-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6632#p6632
BucksInSix wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 11:15 am This came in the mail over the weekend and I am still trying to find out what it is. I plan on framing it for display in my office. There is a set of ripped apart cards from this release on eBay, but no sales. It looks like it was an in-arena giveaway from the 1988/89 season and Bill King (Bucks Director of Public Relations) taped the winners contact information to his letterhead. Other than that I have no information, but I think it is a pretty unique piece of Milwaukee Bucks memorabilia.
Sick pick up. Back when I used to player collect hardcore I'd search for additions to the collection like this. Found some pretty neat stuff over the years. I enjoyed adding stuff like this a lot of times more than the rare stuff with a big $$$ following.
ChrisP57 wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 5:35 pm I like to add to MJ PC every now and then. This was one on my want list

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damn good choice on that one, I really enjoy the landscape orientation]]>
BucksInSix wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 11:15 am This came in the mail over the weekend and I am still trying to find out what it is. I plan on framing it for display in my office. There is a set of ripped apart cards from this release on eBay, but no sales. It looks like it was an in-arena giveaway from the 1988/89 season and Bill King (Bucks Director of Public Relations) taped the winners contact information to his letterhead. Other than that I have no information, but I think it is a pretty unique piece of Milwaukee Bucks memorabilia.
Sick pick up. Back when I used to player collect hardcore I'd search for additions to the collection like this. Found some pretty neat stuff over the years. I enjoyed adding stuff like this a lot of times more than the rare stuff with a big $$$ following.
ChrisP57 wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 5:35 pm I like to add to MJ PC every now and then. This was one on my want list

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damn good choice on that one, I really enjoy the landscape orientation]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by ChrisP57]]> 2025-03-29T11:00:34-05:00 2025-03-29T11:00:34-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6634#p6634
AbraCalabro wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:37 pm
BucksInSix wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 11:15 am This came in the mail over the weekend and I am still trying to find out what it is. I plan on framing it for display in my office. There is a set of ripped apart cards from this release on eBay, but no sales. It looks like it was an in-arena giveaway from the 1988/89 season and Bill King (Bucks Director of Public Relations) taped the winners contact information to his letterhead. Other than that I have no information, but I think it is a pretty unique piece of Milwaukee Bucks memorabilia.
Sick pick up. Back when I used to player collect hardcore I'd search for additions to the collection like this. Found some pretty neat stuff over the years. I enjoyed adding stuff like this a lot of times more than the rare stuff with a big $$$ following.
ChrisP57 wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 5:35 pm I like to add to MJ PC every now and then. This was one on my want list

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damn good choice on that one, I really enjoy the landscape orientation
Thanks Abra! Yeah, you really don't see that kind orientation very much, adds to uniqueness of the card]]>
AbraCalabro wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:37 pm
BucksInSix wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 11:15 am This came in the mail over the weekend and I am still trying to find out what it is. I plan on framing it for display in my office. There is a set of ripped apart cards from this release on eBay, but no sales. It looks like it was an in-arena giveaway from the 1988/89 season and Bill King (Bucks Director of Public Relations) taped the winners contact information to his letterhead. Other than that I have no information, but I think it is a pretty unique piece of Milwaukee Bucks memorabilia.
Sick pick up. Back when I used to player collect hardcore I'd search for additions to the collection like this. Found some pretty neat stuff over the years. I enjoyed adding stuff like this a lot of times more than the rare stuff with a big $$$ following.
ChrisP57 wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 5:35 pm I like to add to MJ PC every now and then. This was one on my want list

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damn good choice on that one, I really enjoy the landscape orientation
Thanks Abra! Yeah, you really don't see that kind orientation very much, adds to uniqueness of the card]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by ChrisP57]]> 2025-03-29T11:00:52-05:00 2025-03-29T11:00:52-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6635#p6635
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The next is big addition to my Westbrook PC. Finally added a 2009-10 Topps Chrome Gold Refractor to my PC. I absolutely love the action shot on this

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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by ChrisP57]]> 2025-03-31T19:12:00-05:00 2025-03-31T19:12:00-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6640#p6640
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by BucksInSix]]> 2025-03-31T19:59:04-05:00 2025-03-31T19:59:04-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6641#p6641
ChrisP57 wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:12 pm Last mailday of the month. The late 90's jersey sets by Upper Deck are still the best memorabilia cards in my opinion. Picking them up still feels like a big deal. One day, I'd like to own one from the very set 1997-98 set, but for now, a Hakeem Olajuwon from 1998-99 will do

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Awesome pickup. Upper Deck didn’t screw around on their early game used releases. Great designs that highlighted the swatch. It must have been insane to find one of these in your packs back then.]]>
ChrisP57 wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:12 pm Last mailday of the month. The late 90's jersey sets by Upper Deck are still the best memorabilia cards in my opinion. Picking them up still feels like a big deal. One day, I'd like to own one from the very set 1997-98 set, but for now, a Hakeem Olajuwon from 1998-99 will do

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Awesome pickup. Upper Deck didn’t screw around on their early game used releases. Great designs that highlighted the swatch. It must have been insane to find one of these in your packs back then.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by BucksInSix]]> 2025-03-31T20:01:59-05:00 2025-03-31T20:01:59-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6642#p6642

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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by SHowley2003]]> 2025-03-31T20:39:27-05:00 2025-03-31T20:39:27-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6643#p6643 <![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-01T06:40:48-05:00 2025-04-01T06:40:48-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6645#p6645
ChrisP57 wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:12 pm Last mailday of the month. The late 90's jersey sets by Upper Deck are still the best memorabilia cards in my opinion. Picking them up still feels like a big deal. One day, I'd like to own one from the very set 1997-98 set, but for now, a Hakeem Olajuwon from 1998-99 will do

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Totally agree dude, MASSIVE pickup!!!]]>
ChrisP57 wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:12 pm Last mailday of the month. The late 90's jersey sets by Upper Deck are still the best memorabilia cards in my opinion. Picking them up still feels like a big deal. One day, I'd like to own one from the very set 1997-98 set, but for now, a Hakeem Olajuwon from 1998-99 will do

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Totally agree dude, MASSIVE pickup!!!]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-02T19:05:06-05:00 2025-04-02T19:05:06-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6656#p6656 This one scanned so nice:
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...and we've got the X-MAN himself, which I think I completely forgot to even scan back when I got it in.

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...and we've got the X-MAN himself, which I think I completely forgot to even scan back when I got it in.

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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by MittenStateCollector]]> 2025-04-04T08:10:29-05:00 2025-04-04T08:10:29-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6659#p6659
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by BucksInSix]]> 2025-04-05T18:02:21-05:00 2025-04-05T18:02:21-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6660#p6660

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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-04-06T17:32:37-05:00 2025-04-06T17:32:37-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6665#p6665
Always love the electric gold pickups Abra, one of these days I feel like you'll inevitably find yourself somewhat close to the set!

Speaking of sets, that fan favorites set is such a cool set schase. I love the on card autos on the vintage designs, that'll look so great when complete @MittenStateCollector.]]>

Always love the electric gold pickups Abra, one of these days I feel like you'll inevitably find yourself somewhat close to the set!

Speaking of sets, that fan favorites set is such a cool set schase. I love the on card autos on the vintage designs, that'll look so great when complete @MittenStateCollector.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-04-07T10:33:45-05:00 2025-04-07T10:33:45-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6667#p6667
BucksInSix wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:02 pm Not a mailday but I went to a local show here in San Diego. It was probably 50/50 sports and Pokemon, with the majority of sports being baseball. However, I was able to find a couple cool Giannis cards that I didn’t have yet.
Love the photo on that Donruss card.

I haven't been to a show in like the last year or so but it doesn't surprise me that they are quickly being taken over by Pokemon. Stuff has gone nuts over the last year or so.]]>
BucksInSix wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:02 pm Not a mailday but I went to a local show here in San Diego. It was probably 50/50 sports and Pokemon, with the majority of sports being baseball. However, I was able to find a couple cool Giannis cards that I didn’t have yet.
Love the photo on that Donruss card.

I haven't been to a show in like the last year or so but it doesn't surprise me that they are quickly being taken over by Pokemon. Stuff has gone nuts over the last year or so.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by ChrisP57]]> 2025-04-07T19:21:39-05:00 2025-04-07T19:21:39-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6670#p6670
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The 1995 and 1996 All Star Game Jerseys were some of my favorite jerseys as they incorporated they host city into the jerseys (I have a Jordan patch card that's from the 96 Game in San Antonio). Kemp was also one of my favorite players in the 90's as he was just so exciting to watch. I remember wearing my Kemp jersey proudly and hoping him and Payton would take down the Bulls in the Finals! Just a fun card to add to my collection!]]>

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The 1995 and 1996 All Star Game Jerseys were some of my favorite jerseys as they incorporated they host city into the jerseys (I have a Jordan patch card that's from the 96 Game in San Antonio). Kemp was also one of my favorite players in the 90's as he was just so exciting to watch. I remember wearing my Kemp jersey proudly and hoping him and Payton would take down the Bulls in the Finals! Just a fun card to add to my collection!]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by BucksInSix]]> 2025-04-08T12:58:20-05:00 2025-04-08T12:58:20-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6671#p6671
Anyway, here is a 2nd year Certified Base Emerald /5

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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by SacKingsCards]]> 2025-04-08T13:39:01-05:00 2025-04-08T13:39:01-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6672#p6672
BucksInSix wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:58 am Fun fact, Derrick Rose was 9th place in MVP voting for the 2020/21 season. He had move MVP points that year than LeBron, Harden, Kawhi and Westbrook combined.

Anyway, here is a 2nd year Certified Base Emerald /5
Absolutely LOVE 09-10 Certified. So nostalgic for me (I started collecting in Jan 2010). I have a binder of my 09-10 certified at my parents that got lost when they did some work on their house a decade ago that I hope I can find someday. I didn't realize that Panini started with greens /5 from the get go.

Had no idea Rose was so high in MVP voting in 20-21. What's the context for that? How is that possible? haha]]>
BucksInSix wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:58 am Fun fact, Derrick Rose was 9th place in MVP voting for the 2020/21 season. He had move MVP points that year than LeBron, Harden, Kawhi and Westbrook combined.

Anyway, here is a 2nd year Certified Base Emerald /5
Absolutely LOVE 09-10 Certified. So nostalgic for me (I started collecting in Jan 2010). I have a binder of my 09-10 certified at my parents that got lost when they did some work on their house a decade ago that I hope I can find someday. I didn't realize that Panini started with greens /5 from the get go.

Had no idea Rose was so high in MVP voting in 20-21. What's the context for that? How is that possible? haha]]>
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by ChrisP57]]> 2025-04-08T18:28:37-05:00 2025-04-08T18:28:37-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6675#p6675
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by BucksInSix]]> 2025-04-09T19:03:12-05:00 2025-04-09T19:03:12-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6677#p6677
SacKingsCards wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:39 pm
BucksInSix wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:58 am Fun fact, Derrick Rose was 9th place in MVP voting for the 2020/21 season. He had move MVP points that year than LeBron, Harden, Kawhi and Westbrook combined.

Anyway, here is a 2nd year Certified Base Emerald /5
Absolutely LOVE 09-10 Certified. So nostalgic for me (I started collecting in Jan 2010). I have a binder of my 09-10 certified at my parents that got lost when they did some work on their house a decade ago that I hope I can find someday. I didn't realize that Panini started with greens /5 from the get go.

Had no idea Rose was so high in MVP voting in 20-21. What's the context for that? How is that possible? haha
The vote was due to fan voting. Fans accounted for 1 first place vote that season. Most likely orchestrated by Rose and Knicks fans for the haha’s]]>
SacKingsCards wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:39 pm
BucksInSix wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:58 am Fun fact, Derrick Rose was 9th place in MVP voting for the 2020/21 season. He had move MVP points that year than LeBron, Harden, Kawhi and Westbrook combined.

Anyway, here is a 2nd year Certified Base Emerald /5
Absolutely LOVE 09-10 Certified. So nostalgic for me (I started collecting in Jan 2010). I have a binder of my 09-10 certified at my parents that got lost when they did some work on their house a decade ago that I hope I can find someday. I didn't realize that Panini started with greens /5 from the get go.

Had no idea Rose was so high in MVP voting in 20-21. What's the context for that? How is that possible? haha
The vote was due to fan voting. Fans accounted for 1 first place vote that season. Most likely orchestrated by Rose and Knicks fans for the haha’s]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-09T22:15:54-05:00 2025-04-09T22:15:54-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6681#p6681
ChrisP57 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:21 pm I've been looking forward to getting this card in and it came in today. I love unique game used cards and I remember Kyle from Wax Museum Podcast had one of these and I thought to myself "Man, if I ever come across a copy, I have to get one of these cards. Sure enough, one went up for auction last week. I made sure to win and was thrilled I did.

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Dude, BEASTLY addition!!!

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ChrisP57 wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 6:21 pm I've been looking forward to getting this card in and it came in today. I love unique game used cards and I remember Kyle from Wax Museum Podcast had one of these and I thought to myself "Man, if I ever come across a copy, I have to get one of these cards. Sure enough, one went up for auction last week. I made sure to win and was thrilled I did.

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The 1995 and 1996 All Star Game Jerseys were some of my favorite jerseys as they incorporated they host city into the jerseys (I have a Jordan patch card that's from the 96 Game in San Antonio). Kemp was also one of my favorite players in the 90's as he was just so exciting to watch. I remember wearing my Kemp jersey proudly and hoping him and Payton would take down the Bulls in the Finals! Just a fun card to add to my collection!
Dude, BEASTLY addition!!!

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SacKingsCards wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:41 pm Had a (probably underwhelming) mail return after vacation I shared here:

You know how I feel about those SP auto jersey cards, great addition on the cheap. The Collison Hoops glitter is gorgeous though, another example of why I wish they included retired players in some of these sets.]]>
SacKingsCards wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:41 pm Had a (probably underwhelming) mail return after vacation I shared here:

You know how I feel about those SP auto jersey cards, great addition on the cheap. The Collison Hoops glitter is gorgeous though, another example of why I wish they included retired players in some of these sets.]]>
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BIG...and I mean a big 7'1 303 pound addition to my curated SPx Finite Spectrum build. Card has it all, design, photography (outstanding action photo), premium feel and it bounces a ton of rainbow colored light back at you.
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by darz90scardz]]> 2025-04-18T07:30:11-05:00 2025-04-18T07:30:11-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6696#p6696
AbraCalabro wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:46 pm Got this in very recently, courtesy of THE HOOKUP from our very own Duron. As president of the Nickel Card Club, I have to say this is a classic example of collectors helping collectors. He didn't ask for anything for it, he JUST sent it.

BIG...and I mean a big 7'1 303 pound addition to my curated SPx Finite Spectrum build. Card has it all, design, photography (outstanding action photo), premium feel and it bounces a ton of rainbow colored light back at you.
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I love how it looks like he probably just mushed Mo Taylor in the face too. But you’ve helped me so many times that I just wish it didn’t take me this long to return the favor. It was a Facebook find that I’m glad I could get into your Spectrum pc.

The NCC is undefeated.]]>
AbraCalabro wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:46 pm Got this in very recently, courtesy of THE HOOKUP from our very own Duron. As president of the Nickel Card Club, I have to say this is a classic example of collectors helping collectors. He didn't ask for anything for it, he JUST sent it.

BIG...and I mean a big 7'1 303 pound addition to my curated SPx Finite Spectrum build. Card has it all, design, photography (outstanding action photo), premium feel and it bounces a ton of rainbow colored light back at you.
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I love how it looks like he probably just mushed Mo Taylor in the face too. But you’ve helped me so many times that I just wish it didn’t take me this long to return the favor. It was a Facebook find that I’m glad I could get into your Spectrum pc.

The NCC is undefeated.]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-04-18T12:16:02-05:00 2025-04-18T12:16:02-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6739#p6739
ChrisP57 wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:04 pm Another MJ Mailday

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AbraCalabro wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:46 pm Got this in very recently, courtesy of THE HOOKUP from our very own Duron. As president of the Nickel Card Club, I have to say this is a classic example of collectors helping collectors. He didn't ask for anything for it, he JUST sent it.

BIG...and I mean a big 7'1 303 pound addition to my curated SPx Finite Spectrum build. Card has it all, design, photography (outstanding action photo), premium feel and it bounces a ton of rainbow colored light back at you.
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ChrisP57 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:14 pm Cool mailday today. Magic Johnson Autograph Game Used All Star Patch from Exquisite

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Stunning cards guys!]]>
ChrisP57 wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:04 pm Another MJ Mailday

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AbraCalabro wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:46 pm Got this in very recently, courtesy of THE HOOKUP from our very own Duron. As president of the Nickel Card Club, I have to say this is a classic example of collectors helping collectors. He didn't ask for anything for it, he JUST sent it.

BIG...and I mean a big 7'1 303 pound addition to my curated SPx Finite Spectrum build. Card has it all, design, photography (outstanding action photo), premium feel and it bounces a ton of rainbow colored light back at you.
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ChrisP57 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:14 pm Cool mailday today. Magic Johnson Autograph Game Used All Star Patch from Exquisite

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Stunning cards guys!]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Basketball) :: Reply by darz90scardz]]> 2025-04-18T15:38:25-05:00 2025-04-18T15:38:25-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=260&p=6742#p6742
ChrisP57 wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:01 am MJ Mailday from yesterday

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Great pickup. This is another mj that's been on my list for a while, nicest looking pure insert out of all of spx imo]]>
ChrisP57 wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:01 am MJ Mailday from yesterday

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Great pickup. This is another mj that's been on my list for a while, nicest looking pure insert out of all of spx imo]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Panini reflection etc :: Author Cardiac kemba pc]]> 2025-04-18T05:03:22-05:00 2025-04-18T05:03:22-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2989&p=6695#p6695
Part of this reflection is to understand what might be missing from the collection I don't know about, or to try something new. Therefore I would like to get everyone's opinion on their favourite card, set, Parellel, case hit, rare pack odds from the era,

Your list or opinion could be a well known parallel however from a particular yr only. Do you like firsts? This is rather a very open discussion / thread that maybe can be extended on over the yrs post panini. This could be something we might learn from and can look back at like a time capsule to see what might have been popular now, might not be ten yrs from now.

I would rather not offer my opinions for now so as to avoid any potential bias and would rather everyone be able to openly express what they enjoy and like. However I would like to mention one particular card as the 2017 essentials platinum, I don't know much about them other than they look cool and are tough to find.

Thanks

What specific cards do you like from the era?]]>

Part of this reflection is to understand what might be missing from the collection I don't know about, or to try something new. Therefore I would like to get everyone's opinion on their favourite card, set, Parellel, case hit, rare pack odds from the era,

Your list or opinion could be a well known parallel however from a particular yr only. Do you like firsts? This is rather a very open discussion / thread that maybe can be extended on over the yrs post panini. This could be something we might learn from and can look back at like a time capsule to see what might have been popular now, might not be ten yrs from now.

I would rather not offer my opinions for now so as to avoid any potential bias and would rather everyone be able to openly express what they enjoy and like. However I would like to mention one particular card as the 2017 essentials platinum, I don't know much about them other than they look cool and are tough to find.

Thanks

What specific cards do you like from the era?]]>
<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Panini reflection etc :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-04-18T19:02:22-05:00 2025-04-18T19:02:22-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2989&p=6744#p6744
When I was reading through your post I was immediately thinking about Essentials Platinums, lol.

Below is a link to a post where I have a photo of one of my binder pages. I'm currently down to 9 left for my set!
viewtopic.php?p=973#p973

This is a photo I took of Tatum and Brown platinums after the Celtics won the championship last season.
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The platinums were basically case hits. I think estimated print run is around 10. I personally like them because they remind me of the Flair legacy parallels from the 90's. While not quite as nice, they are still one of the better looking low print run "non-numbered" parallels that Panini has ever done. They flew under the radar for the most part due to being unnumbered and from a one and done product, so they were never super expensive (still aren't really). Once I have some time i'll throw up some more photos.

Another set I've always really liked is Optic. It was never as hyped as Prizm so you could generally get them for cheaper. In later years they actually look a lot better than Prizm as well IMO. Especially photography-wise. Prizm went close up dribbling or holding the ball for the most part while Optiic maintained the in game action photos. (Besides 17-18 Optic, that release sucked lol)

Here's my team set from the Nuggets championship season (22-23), minus the rookies Christian Brown and Peyton Watson, still need those.
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When I was reading through your post I was immediately thinking about Essentials Platinums, lol.

Below is a link to a post where I have a photo of one of my binder pages. I'm currently down to 9 left for my set!
viewtopic.php?p=973#p973

This is a photo I took of Tatum and Brown platinums after the Celtics won the championship last season.
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The platinums were basically case hits. I think estimated print run is around 10. I personally like them because they remind me of the Flair legacy parallels from the 90's. While not quite as nice, they are still one of the better looking low print run "non-numbered" parallels that Panini has ever done. They flew under the radar for the most part due to being unnumbered and from a one and done product, so they were never super expensive (still aren't really). Once I have some time i'll throw up some more photos.

Another set I've always really liked is Optic. It was never as hyped as Prizm so you could generally get them for cheaper. In later years they actually look a lot better than Prizm as well IMO. Especially photography-wise. Prizm went close up dribbling or holding the ball for the most part while Optiic maintained the in game action photos. (Besides 17-18 Optic, that release sucked lol)

Here's my team set from the Nuggets championship season (22-23), minus the rookies Christian Brown and Peyton Watson, still need those.
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<![CDATA[BASKETBALL :: Re: Panini reflection etc :: Reply by Cardiac kemba pc]]> 2025-04-19T03:00:57-05:00 2025-04-19T03:00:57-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2989&p=6745#p6745
mindcycle wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:02 pm Great topic!

When I was reading through your post I was immediately thinking about Essentials Platinums, lol.

Below is a link to a post where I have a photo of one of my binder pages. I'm currently down to 9 left for my set!
viewtopic.php?p=973#p973

This is a photo I took of Tatum and Brown platinums after the Celtics won the championship last season.
Image

The platinums were basically case hits. I think estimated print run is around 10. I personally like them because they remind me of the Flair legacy parallels from the 90's. While not quite as nice, they are still one of the better looking low print run "non-numbered" parallels that Panini has ever done. They flew under the radar for the most part due to being unnumbered and from a one and done product, so they were never super expensive (still aren't really). Once I have some time i'll throw up some more photos.

Another set I've always really liked is Optic. It was never as hyped as Prizm so you could generally get them for cheaper. In later years they actually look a lot better than Prizm as well IMO. Especially photography-wise. Prizm went close up dribbling or holding the ball for the most part while Optiic maintained the in game action photos. (Besides 17-18 Optic, that release sucked lol)

Here's my team set from the Nuggets championship season (22-23), minus the rookies Christian Brown and Peyton Watson, still need those.
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Agree, great cards here. The essentials also remind me of the 90s legacies which are great. I also agree with the sentiment around optic vs prizm. I really like 2018 optic along with 2021 and 2023.

I do like the 17 and 18 status cards, 2017 blank slate, one and one along with photogenic. A set I particularly like the look of is the 2009 court kings base set. If only kemba was around then I would be grabbing that for sure.]]>
mindcycle wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:02 pm Great topic!

When I was reading through your post I was immediately thinking about Essentials Platinums, lol.

Below is a link to a post where I have a photo of one of my binder pages. I'm currently down to 9 left for my set!
viewtopic.php?p=973#p973

This is a photo I took of Tatum and Brown platinums after the Celtics won the championship last season.
Image

The platinums were basically case hits. I think estimated print run is around 10. I personally like them because they remind me of the Flair legacy parallels from the 90's. While not quite as nice, they are still one of the better looking low print run "non-numbered" parallels that Panini has ever done. They flew under the radar for the most part due to being unnumbered and from a one and done product, so they were never super expensive (still aren't really). Once I have some time i'll throw up some more photos.

Another set I've always really liked is Optic. It was never as hyped as Prizm so you could generally get them for cheaper. In later years they actually look a lot better than Prizm as well IMO. Especially photography-wise. Prizm went close up dribbling or holding the ball for the most part while Optiic maintained the in game action photos. (Besides 17-18 Optic, that release sucked lol)

Here's my team set from the Nuggets championship season (22-23), minus the rookies Christian Brown and Peyton Watson, still need those.
Image

Agree, great cards here. The essentials also remind me of the 90s legacies which are great. I also agree with the sentiment around optic vs prizm. I really like 2018 optic along with 2021 and 2023.

I do like the 17 and 18 status cards, 2017 blank slate, one and one along with photogenic. A set I particularly like the look of is the 2009 court kings base set. If only kemba was around then I would be grabbing that for sure.]]>
<![CDATA[Basketball B/S/T :: Re: Chasing Jason Kidd 1996 Ultra Platinum :: Reply by Tanana]]> 2025-03-20T06:16:04-05:00 2025-03-20T06:16:04-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2980&p=6571#p6571
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:40 pm 96 Plat medallions are the best. I’ll let you know if I see one pop up.
Thanks mate, I need it for the mavs triple J's :)

And I am glad you shared this on your insta feed! I had no idea about the site]]>
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:40 pm 96 Plat medallions are the best. I’ll let you know if I see one pop up.
Thanks mate, I need it for the mavs triple J's :)

And I am glad you shared this on your insta feed! I had no idea about the site]]>
<![CDATA[Basketball B/S/T :: Re: Chasing Jason Kidd 1996 Ultra Platinum :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-20T16:33:14-05:00 2025-03-20T16:33:14-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2980&p=6576#p6576
Tanana wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:16 am
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:40 pm 96 Plat medallions are the best. I’ll let you know if I see one pop up.
Thanks mate, I need it for the mavs triple J's :)

And I am glad you shared this on your insta feed! I had no idea about the site
Welcome bro! The more the merrier! It's a great site and we just need more hobby guys on here, I think it's going to take off and be the true successor to HK.

Good luck on your chase, I still need a Kidd EC Gold myself, so I'm in the same boat...sort of.]]>
Tanana wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:16 am
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:40 pm 96 Plat medallions are the best. I’ll let you know if I see one pop up.
Thanks mate, I need it for the mavs triple J's :)

And I am glad you shared this on your insta feed! I had no idea about the site
Welcome bro! The more the merrier! It's a great site and we just need more hobby guys on here, I think it's going to take off and be the true successor to HK.

Good luck on your chase, I still need a Kidd EC Gold myself, so I'm in the same boat...sort of.]]>
<![CDATA[Basketball B/S/T :: Re: Chasing Jason Kidd 1996 Ultra Platinum :: Reply by Tanana]]> 2025-03-20T18:45:41-05:00 2025-03-20T18:45:41-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2980&p=6579#p6579 ]]> ]]> <![CDATA[Basketball B/S/T :: Re: Chasing Jason Kidd 1996 Ultra Platinum :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-03-22T22:24:55-05:00 2025-03-22T22:24:55-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2980&p=6593#p6593
Tanana wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:45 pm Good to see you are here Abra! Last I saw, you were selling your Kemp collection :shock:
Yeah man, I sold off a ton of the collection and kept about 100 cards. I sold most of it to other Kemp guys, so I walked away feeling good about it knowing the cards are with them and that I could save them some money.]]>
Tanana wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:45 pm Good to see you are here Abra! Last I saw, you were selling your Kemp collection :shock:
Yeah man, I sold off a ton of the collection and kept about 100 cards. I sold most of it to other Kemp guys, so I walked away feeling good about it knowing the cards are with them and that I could save them some money.]]>
<![CDATA[Basketball B/S/T :: Re: Chasing Jason Kidd 1996 Ultra Platinum :: Reply by Tanana]]> 2025-03-25T06:39:12-05:00 2025-03-25T06:39:12-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2980&p=6610#p6610
AbraCalabro wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 9:24 pm
Tanana wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:45 pm Good to see you are here Abra! Last I saw, you were selling your Kemp collection :shock:
Yeah man, I sold off a ton of the collection and kept about 100 cards. I sold most of it to other Kemp guys, so I walked away feeling good about it knowing the cards are with them and that I could save them some money.
Nice! Always hard to move cards, but what you did makes it easier I am sure!]]>
AbraCalabro wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 9:24 pm
Tanana wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:45 pm Good to see you are here Abra! Last I saw, you were selling your Kemp collection :shock:
Yeah man, I sold off a ton of the collection and kept about 100 cards. I sold most of it to other Kemp guys, so I walked away feeling good about it knowing the cards are with them and that I could save them some money.
Nice! Always hard to move cards, but what you did makes it easier I am sure!]]>
<![CDATA[FOOTBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Football) :: Reply by ChrisP57]]> 2025-03-20T18:01:05-05:00 2025-03-20T18:01:05-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=264&p=6578#p6578
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:47 pm Really liking that Knute Immac mem card Chirs. Does it tell you where the material from?
This one doesn't specify, but there's similar cards that state it comes from a Coat he wore]]>
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:47 pm Really liking that Knute Immac mem card Chirs. Does it tell you where the material from?
This one doesn't specify, but there's similar cards that state it comes from a Coat he wore]]>
<![CDATA[FOOTBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Football) :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-03-20T20:11:43-05:00 2025-03-20T20:11:43-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=264&p=6580#p6580
ChrisP57 wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:01 pm
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:47 pm Really liking that Knute Immac mem card Chirs. Does it tell you where the material from?
This one doesn't specify, but there's similar cards that state it comes from a Coat he wore
Ah, yeah that makes sense. Very cool.]]>
ChrisP57 wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:01 pm
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:47 pm Really liking that Knute Immac mem card Chirs. Does it tell you where the material from?
This one doesn't specify, but there's similar cards that state it comes from a Coat he wore
Ah, yeah that makes sense. Very cool.]]>
<![CDATA[FOOTBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Football) :: Reply by ChrisP57]]> 2025-03-24T19:03:13-05:00 2025-03-24T19:03:13-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=264&p=6605#p6605
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<![CDATA[FOOTBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Football) :: Reply by ChrisP57]]> 2025-04-03T17:14:50-05:00 2025-04-03T17:14:50-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=264&p=6657#p6657
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<![CDATA[FOOTBALL :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Football) :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-04-07T10:34:16-05:00 2025-04-07T10:34:16-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=264&p=6668#p6668
ChrisP57 wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 4:14 pm Picked up a Mahomes that has been on want list for a while. Came in today

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Nice!]]>
ChrisP57 wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 4:14 pm Picked up a Mahomes that has been on want list for a while. Came in today

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Nice!]]>
<![CDATA[WRESTLING / MMA :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Wrestling) :: Reply by vintagepacers]]> 2025-03-24T15:06:03-05:00 2025-03-24T15:06:03-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=563&p=6603#p6603

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2019 Topps WWE NXT Autographs #ACG Chelsea Green by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2018 Topps WWE NXT Autographs Bronze #AAB Aleister Black /99 by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2022 Panini Prizm WWE Prizms White Sparkle #9 Bianca Belair by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2022 Panini Prizm WWE Prizms White Sparkle #14 Wes Lee by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2022 Panini Prizm WWE Prizms White Sparkle #140 Walter by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2023 Pro Wrestling Junkie Autograph #MS Masha Slamovich by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2023 Pro Wrestling Junkie Autograph #ZSJ Zack Sabre Jr. by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2024 Pro Wrestling Junkie Autograph #KK Killer Kelly by SMosley21x, on Flickr]]>


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2019 Topps WWE NXT Autographs #ACG Chelsea Green by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2018 Topps WWE NXT Autographs Bronze #AAB Aleister Black /99 by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2022 Panini Prizm WWE Prizms White Sparkle #9 Bianca Belair by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2022 Panini Prizm WWE Prizms White Sparkle #14 Wes Lee by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2022 Panini Prizm WWE Prizms White Sparkle #140 Walter by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2023 Pro Wrestling Junkie Autograph #MS Masha Slamovich by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2023 Pro Wrestling Junkie Autograph #ZSJ Zack Sabre Jr. by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2024 Pro Wrestling Junkie Autograph #KK Killer Kelly by SMosley21x, on Flickr]]>
<![CDATA[WRESTLING / MMA :: Re: EST of WWE! - Bianca Belair Thread :: Reply by vintagepacers]]> 2025-03-24T15:11:21-05:00 2025-03-24T15:11:21-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=359&p=6604#p6604 Image
2018 Topps WWE NXT Autographs #ABB Bianca Belair by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2020 Topps Chrome WWE Gold Refractors #72 Bianca Belair by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2021 Topps WWE Transcendent Autographs Green #ABB Bianca Belair by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2022 Panini Prizm WWE Prizms White Sparkle #9 Bianca Belair by SMosley21x, on Flickr]]>
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2018 Topps WWE NXT Autographs #ABB Bianca Belair by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2020 Topps Chrome WWE Gold Refractors #72 Bianca Belair by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2021 Topps WWE Transcendent Autographs Green #ABB Bianca Belair by SMosley21x, on Flickr

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2022 Panini Prizm WWE Prizms White Sparkle #9 Bianca Belair by SMosley21x, on Flickr]]>
<![CDATA[VINTAGE NON-SPORTS CARDS :: Re: 1979 Topps Alien (Movie) :: Reply by vintagepacers]]> 2025-03-24T14:57:07-05:00 2025-03-24T14:57:07-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=2966&p=6602#p6602
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:51 pm How did the chase end up? You end up pulling one?

That would also be a great card for an IP auto.
I have purchased roughly 10 sealed packs and have yet to pull one myself. I did pull the sticker version a couple of months ago.

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mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:51 pm How did the chase end up? You end up pulling one?

That would also be a great card for an IP auto.
I have purchased roughly 10 sealed packs and have yet to pull one myself. I did pull the sticker version a couple of months ago.

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1979 Topps Alien Stickers #14 Warrant Officer Ripley by SMosley21x, on Flickr]]>
<![CDATA[VINTAGE NON-SPORTS CARDS :: Re: 1979 Topps Alien (Movie) :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-03-25T17:51:02-05:00 2025-03-25T17:51:02-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=2966&p=6615#p6615
vintagepacers wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 1:57 pm
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:51 pm How did the chase end up? You end up pulling one?

That would also be a great card for an IP auto.
I have purchased roughly 10 sealed packs and have yet to pull one myself. I did pull the sticker version a couple of months ago.

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1979 Topps Alien Stickers #14 Warrant Officer Ripley by SMosley21x, on Flickr
That's still a pretty awesome card tho.. :D]]>
vintagepacers wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 1:57 pm
mindcycle wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:51 pm How did the chase end up? You end up pulling one?

That would also be a great card for an IP auto.
I have purchased roughly 10 sealed packs and have yet to pull one myself. I did pull the sticker version a couple of months ago.

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1979 Topps Alien Stickers #14 Warrant Officer Ripley by SMosley21x, on Flickr
That's still a pretty awesome card tho.. :D]]>
<![CDATA[VINTAGE NON-SPORTS CARDS :: Re: 1924 Ogdens Leaders of Men - Full Set :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-02T18:18:44-05:00 2025-04-02T18:18:44-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=697&p=6653#p6653
Do you need any supplies for Tobacco cards? I have some that I'm not going to be using, probably ever.

What got you into this set? I know you mentioned the budget for something like this is different than baseball from the same era, but are you into history? Or just like the artwork?]]>

Do you need any supplies for Tobacco cards? I have some that I'm not going to be using, probably ever.

What got you into this set? I know you mentioned the budget for something like this is different than baseball from the same era, but are you into history? Or just like the artwork?]]>
<![CDATA[VINTAGE NON-SPORTS CARDS :: Re: 1924 Ogdens Leaders of Men - Full Set :: Reply by mindcycle]]> 2025-04-18T12:12:21-05:00 2025-04-18T12:12:21-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=697&p=6738#p6738
AbraCalabro wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 5:18 pm Sweet set build dude.

Do you need any supplies for Tobacco cards? I have some that I'm not going to be using, probably ever.
Thanks man! Could always use more supplies. :D
AbraCalabro wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 5:18 pm What got you into this set? I know you mentioned the budget for something like this is different than baseball from the same era, but are you into history? Or just like the artwork?
This and the T68 (Heroes of History) is what really got me into vintage non-sports sets. Both of those sets are something I got into collecting when I was taking a break from sports cards, probably 7-8 years ago or so I think it was. Right around the time of the awful 17-18 season of releases (imo at least) where there was maybe like one or two sets from Panini that didn't feature 90% dribbling or holding the ball pics. I had just had enough I think, lol. I'm not a huge history buff or anything, it was just something new and interesting to pick up really and it does help you learn more about some of the prominent figures from those time periods. I didn't start going after sets too hard until the last few years though, and probably a bit late tbh. Like everything else in cards nowadays it seems, some of the more well known names (think.. Lincoln, Washington, etc..) people are now grading and flipping. Bringing up prices, but also making raw copies harder to find.

I was going to wait to throw up my T68 set until I have it completed but might do it sooner than later because I actually like those a bit more.]]>
AbraCalabro wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 5:18 pm Sweet set build dude.

Do you need any supplies for Tobacco cards? I have some that I'm not going to be using, probably ever.
Thanks man! Could always use more supplies. :D
AbraCalabro wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 5:18 pm What got you into this set? I know you mentioned the budget for something like this is different than baseball from the same era, but are you into history? Or just like the artwork?
This and the T68 (Heroes of History) is what really got me into vintage non-sports sets. Both of those sets are something I got into collecting when I was taking a break from sports cards, probably 7-8 years ago or so I think it was. Right around the time of the awful 17-18 season of releases (imo at least) where there was maybe like one or two sets from Panini that didn't feature 90% dribbling or holding the ball pics. I had just had enough I think, lol. I'm not a huge history buff or anything, it was just something new and interesting to pick up really and it does help you learn more about some of the prominent figures from those time periods. I didn't start going after sets too hard until the last few years though, and probably a bit late tbh. Like everything else in cards nowadays it seems, some of the more well known names (think.. Lincoln, Washington, etc..) people are now grading and flipping. Bringing up prices, but also making raw copies harder to find.

I was going to wait to throw up my T68 set until I have it completed but might do it sooner than later because I actually like those a bit more.]]>
<![CDATA[OTHER NON-SPORTS :: Re: A Rolling Mailday Thread (Non-Sport) :: Reply by AbraCalabro]]> 2025-04-02T18:20:29-05:00 2025-04-02T18:20:29-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=392&p=6654#p6654
Hopefully I'll have some stuff in soon that I can show off.]]>

Hopefully I'll have some stuff in soon that I can show off.]]>
<![CDATA[BECKETT :: Graded: 2009-10 Exquisite Collection All-NBA Access Dual Logos Autographs #DLBB Bryant/Bird :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-16T09:49:31-05:00 2025-04-16T09:49:31-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2991&p=6698#p6698 Upper Deck tapped into what fans and collectors want most, memorabilia and autographs. In the 2009-10 Exquisite Collection they gave fans a quadruple dip pairing patch and autograph with two all-time greats on one card. Collectors and flippers alike saw dollar signs when Upper Deck released their 2009-10 Exquisite Collection. In a print run of 199 of Kobe Bryant #3 alone, low-end raw values start at $150. In the All-Access dual logos, UD tagged Bryant with Brandon Roy and on a triple logo card collectors got a 1-of-1 with Bryant, Kevin Garnett, and LeBron James – Dwight Howard, James, and […]

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Upper Deck tapped into what fans and collectors want most, memorabilia and autographs. In the 2009-10 Exquisite Collection they gave fans a quadruple dip pairing patch and autograph with two all-time greats on one card. Collectors and flippers alike saw dollar signs when Upper Deck released their 2009-10 Exquisite Collection. In a print run of 199 of Kobe Bryant #3 alone, low-end raw values start at $150. In the All-Access dual logos, UD tagged Bryant with Brandon Roy and on a triple logo card collectors got a 1-of-1 with Bryant, Kevin Garnett, and LeBron James – Dwight Howard, James, and […]

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<![CDATA[BECKETT :: 2024-25 Donruss Turkish Airlines EuroLeague Basketball Details :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-16T13:29:00-05:00 2025-04-16T13:29:00-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2992&p=6699#p6699 2024-25 Donruss Turkish Airlines EuroLeague Basketball checklist details, hobby box breakdown, release date, autographs, inserts, more.

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2024-25 Donruss Turkish Airlines EuroLeague Basketball checklist details, hobby box breakdown, release date, autographs, inserts, more.

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<![CDATA[BECKETT :: 2024-25 Topps Chrome UEFA Club Competitions Checklist and Details :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-16T15:49:24-05:00 2025-04-16T15:49:24-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2993&p=6700#p6700 2024-25 Topps Chrome UEFA Club Competitions checklist, team sets, hobby and jumbo box breakdowns, odds, release date, autographs, Refractors.

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2024-25 Topps Chrome UEFA Club Competitions checklist, team sets, hobby and jumbo box breakdowns, odds, release date, autographs, Refractors.

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<![CDATA[BECKETT :: 2025 Topps Tribute Baseball Checklist, Team Set Lists and Details :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-16T16:59:00-05:00 2025-04-16T16:59:00-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2994&p=6701#p6701 2025 Topps Tribute Baseball checklist, team set lists, hobby box breakdown, odds, release date, autographs, memorabilia and more.

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2025 Topps Tribute Baseball checklist, team set lists, hobby box breakdown, odds, release date, autographs, memorabilia and more.

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<![CDATA[BECKETT :: Cheap Wax Wednesday Box Breaks: 1995 Topps Stadium Club High Series Baseball :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-16T19:12:46-05:00 2025-04-16T19:12:46-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2995&p=6702#p6702 1995 Topps Stadium Club High Series Baseball box break, review and highlights. Shane Salmonson has a Cheap Wax Wednesday breakdown.

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1995 Topps Stadium Club High Series Baseball box break, review and highlights. Shane Salmonson has a Cheap Wax Wednesday breakdown.

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<![CDATA[BECKETT :: Graded: 2024 Topps Cosmic Chrome Planetary Pursuit Venus Jackson Holliday :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-17T13:58:15-05:00 2025-04-17T13:58:15-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2996&p=6703#p6703 If collectors are going to purchase high-end sports cards, the expectation is to land money cards. In the 2024 Topps Cosmic Chrome baseball set, the manufacturer put the universe, and the potential to make all the money in the world, in enthusiasts’ hands with collectors responding. When the Cosmic Chrome set made its way back to this planet, hobby boxes cost $299.99 and cases were going for $3,599.99. The checklist was packed with parallel refractors that were… out of this world: Nucleus Refractors, Aqua Equinox Refractors, Purple Nebula Refractors, Blue Moon Refractors, Green Space Dust Refractors, Gold Interstellar Refractors, Orange […]

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If collectors are going to purchase high-end sports cards, the expectation is to land money cards. In the 2024 Topps Cosmic Chrome baseball set, the manufacturer put the universe, and the potential to make all the money in the world, in enthusiasts’ hands with collectors responding. When the Cosmic Chrome set made its way back to this planet, hobby boxes cost $299.99 and cases were going for $3,599.99. The checklist was packed with parallel refractors that were… out of this world: Nucleus Refractors, Aqua Equinox Refractors, Purple Nebula Refractors, Blue Moon Refractors, Green Space Dust Refractors, Gold Interstellar Refractors, Orange […]

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<![CDATA[BECKETT :: 2025 Topps Chrome WWE Cactus Jack x WrestleMania Checklist and Details :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-17T14:42:46-05:00 2025-04-17T14:42:46-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2997&p=6704#p6704 2025 Topps Chrome WWE Cactus Jack x WrestleMania checklist, hobby box breakdown, release date, autographs, inserts, parallels and more.

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2025 Topps Chrome WWE Cactus Jack x WrestleMania checklist, hobby box breakdown, release date, autographs, inserts, parallels and more.

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<![CDATA[BECKETT :: 2024 Panini Phoenix Football Checklist, Team Set Lists and Details :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-17T15:15:00-05:00 2025-04-17T15:15:00-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2998&p=6705#p6705 2024 Panini Phoenix Football checklist, team sets, hobby box breakdown, print runs, release date, autographs, inserts, parallels and more.

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2024 Panini Phoenix Football checklist, team sets, hobby box breakdown, print runs, release date, autographs, inserts, parallels and more.

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<![CDATA[BECKETT :: 2025 Upper Deck Allure SE Details :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-17T17:22:20-05:00 2025-04-17T17:22:20-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2999&p=6706#p6706 2025 Upper Deck Allure SE checklist details, hobby box breakdown, release date, odds, autographs, inserts, parallels and more.

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2025 Upper Deck Allure SE checklist details, hobby box breakdown, release date, odds, autographs, inserts, parallels and more.

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<![CDATA[BECKETT :: Graded: 2003-04 SP Signature Edition Rookie Inkorporated #LJ LeBron James :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-18T08:51:38-05:00 2025-04-18T08:51:38-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3000&p=6707#p6707 The hype out of Akron, Ohio, in 2003 may not have done LeBron James justice. Predicted to be the next all-everything in the NBA, James has been all of that and more. As important as the 21-time NBA All-Star has been to the game of basketball, King James has been equally meaningful to the sports card industry. An autograph of a beloved athlete always raises the value of a sports card. Add one of the GOATS of the game into the hobby mix, big bucks are swapped when dealing with James cards, especially a rookie card. Upper Deck featured 28 […]

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The hype out of Akron, Ohio, in 2003 may not have done LeBron James justice. Predicted to be the next all-everything in the NBA, James has been all of that and more. As important as the 21-time NBA All-Star has been to the game of basketball, King James has been equally meaningful to the sports card industry. An autograph of a beloved athlete always raises the value of a sports card. Add one of the GOATS of the game into the hobby mix, big bucks are swapped when dealing with James cards, especially a rookie card. Upper Deck featured 28 […]

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<![CDATA[BECKETT :: Graded: 1919-21 W514 #15 Joe Jackson Hand Cut VG-EX 4 :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-18T12:06:47-05:00 2025-04-18T12:06:47-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3031&p=6741#p6741 Given the opportunity to go back in time, Marty McFly may want the fictitious Sports Almanac – Complete Sports Statistics 1950-2050, but sports card collectors would love to bring back the 120-card 1919 W514 set. The value, even if in poor condition, would be lifechanging for most. An ungraded W514 #15 Joe Jackson Hand Cut alone could bring anywhere from $1,500 to $6,600. Some names in the set are lost to time but not to the Hall of Fame. The “Home Run King” Babe Ruth (#2), Bill Southworth (#16), Max Carey (#22), Eddie Collins (#25), Miller Huggins (#34), Clark Griffth […]

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Given the opportunity to go back in time, Marty McFly may want the fictitious Sports Almanac – Complete Sports Statistics 1950-2050, but sports card collectors would love to bring back the 120-card 1919 W514 set. The value, even if in poor condition, would be lifechanging for most. An ungraded W514 #15 Joe Jackson Hand Cut alone could bring anywhere from $1,500 to $6,600. Some names in the set are lost to time but not to the Hall of Fame. The “Home Run King” Babe Ruth (#2), Bill Southworth (#16), Max Carey (#22), Eddie Collins (#25), Miller Huggins (#34), Clark Griffth […]

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<![CDATA[BECKETT :: 2024-25 SP Game Used Hockey Checklist and Details :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-18T14:11:00-05:00 2025-04-18T14:11:00-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3032&p=6743#p6743 2024-25 SP Game Used Hockey checklist, team sets, hobby box breakdown, odds, print runs, release date, autographs, memorabilia cards, more.

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2024-25 SP Game Used Hockey checklist, team sets, hobby box breakdown, odds, print runs, release date, autographs, memorabilia cards, more.

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<![CDATA[CARDBOARD CONNECTION :: 2024 Panini Donruss NFL Trading Card Box Set Review and Checklist :: Author admin]]> 2025-03-28T20:03:31-05:00 2025-03-28T20:03:31-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3025&p=6732#p6732
Source: https://www.cardboardconnection.com/202 ... -checklist]]>

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<![CDATA[CARDBOARD CONNECTION :: 2025 Topps Chrome® Black Baseball Trading Card Box Set Review and Checklist :: Author admin]]> 2025-03-28T23:38:29-05:00 2025-03-28T23:38:29-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3026&p=6733#p6733
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<![CDATA[CARDBOARD CONNECTION :: 2024-25 Panini Donruss Optic NBA Trading Card Box Set Review and Checklist :: Author admin]]> 2025-03-30T00:54:07-05:00 2025-03-30T00:54:07-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3027&p=6734#p6734
Source: https://www.cardboardconnection.com/202 ... -checklist]]>

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<![CDATA[CARDBOARD CONNECTION :: 2024 Topps Inception Football Trading Card Set Review and Checklist :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-01T00:05:04-05:00 2025-04-01T00:05:04-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3028&p=6735#p6735
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<![CDATA[CARDBOARD CONNECTION :: 2024-25 Panini Prizm NBA Set Review and Checklist :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-10T16:21:24-05:00 2025-04-10T16:21:24-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3029&p=6736#p6736
Source: https://www.cardboardconnection.com/202 ... -checklist]]>

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<![CDATA[CARDBOARD CONNECTION :: 2024-25 Panini PhotoGenic NBA Trading Card Box Set Review and Checklist :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-10T16:31:43-05:00 2025-04-10T16:31:43-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3030&p=6737#p6737
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<![CDATA[UPPER DECK :: Champions of Meridell-Teasers | Neopets Battledome TCG :: Author admin]]> 2025-03-26T14:08:40-05:00 2025-03-26T14:08:40-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=3006&p=6713#p6713 Image

We are excited to start sharing previews for the upcoming set Champions of Meridell, so we put together some hints (in a familiar style) while you wait.  Some of the hints shared here may contain partial information and may not spoil the whole effect! With that disclaimer out of the way let’s get started.
 
Here are [...]
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We are excited to start sharing previews for the upcoming set Champions of Meridell, so we put together some hints (in a familiar style) while you wait.  Some of the hints shared here may contain partial information and may not spoil the whole effect! With that disclaimer out of the way let’s get started.
 
Here are [...]
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<![CDATA[UPPER DECK :: Champions of Meridell Booster Box Breakdown | Neopets Battledome TCG :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-01T17:23:41-05:00 2025-04-01T17:23:41-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=3007&p=6714#p6714 Image

Welcome to our first blog on Champions of Meridell our next set for the Neopets Battledome Trading Card Game. We have several new mechanics to shake up the Battledome. In this set we are introducing for the first time Petpets, Heroes, and Villains. Check out the following breakdown of what you can find in each [...]
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Welcome to our first blog on Champions of Meridell our next set for the Neopets Battledome Trading Card Game. We have several new mechanics to shake up the Battledome. In this set we are introducing for the first time Petpets, Heroes, and Villains. Check out the following breakdown of what you can find in each [...]
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<![CDATA[UPPER DECK :: The Aspects | Rush of Ikorr :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-02T17:36:35-05:00 2025-04-02T17:36:35-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=3008&p=6715#p6715 Image

In Rush of Ikorr most cards will have an aspect assigned to it, this is visually located on the top right of the card.

Ambition | Aspire. Demand. Ascend. |
The ambition aspect focuses on agile battle tactics to rise above its enemy to expedite a decisive victory.
(Quick Strike, Swift, Strike Damage Effects, Fury, Aggro)

Curiosity | Anticipate. [...]
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In Rush of Ikorr most cards will have an aspect assigned to it, this is visually located on the top right of the card.

Ambition | Aspire. Demand. Ascend. |
The ambition aspect focuses on agile battle tactics to rise above its enemy to expedite a decisive victory.
(Quick Strike, Swift, Strike Damage Effects, Fury, Aggro)

Curiosity | Anticipate. [...]
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<![CDATA[UPPER DECK :: 2025 Spring Sports Card & Memorabilia Expo :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-09T18:45:37-05:00 2025-04-09T18:45:37-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=3009&p=6716#p6716  
The Spring Sports Card & Memorabilia Expo will be taking place April 24-27, 2025. Upper Deck is thrilled to be a part of yet another exhilarating annual event for all sports collectors! As part of the largest and longest-running sports collectibles show in Canada, Upper Deck will be bringing back the ever-popular Wrapper Redemption Program, plus many [...]
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The Spring Sports Card & Memorabilia Expo will be taking place April 24-27, 2025. Upper Deck is thrilled to be a part of yet another exhilarating annual event for all sports collectors! As part of the largest and longest-running sports collectibles show in Canada, Upper Deck will be bringing back the ever-popular Wrapper Redemption Program, plus many [...]
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<![CDATA[UPPER DECK :: Heroes, Villains, and Berries oh my | Neopets Battledome TCG :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-11T17:27:11-05:00 2025-04-11T17:27:11-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=3010&p=6717#p6717 Image

 
 
Choose Your Hero or Villain (We aren’t Judging)
Champions of Meridell sees the introduction of two new card types, Heroes and Villains! They function similar to Faeries and even sit in the same zone. Some of which even have the ability to transform! Let’s take a look at a few of the ones you can find [...]
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Choose Your Hero or Villain (We aren’t Judging)
Champions of Meridell sees the introduction of two new card types, Heroes and Villains! They function similar to Faeries and even sit in the same zone. Some of which even have the ability to transform! Let’s take a look at a few of the ones you can find [...]
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<![CDATA[NEWS & ANNOUNCEMENTS :: Site Updates (4/18/2025) :: Author admin]]> 2025-04-18T10:45:14-05:00 2025-04-18T10:45:14-05:00 https://thehobbyboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2990&p=6697#p6697 phpBB updated to ver. 3.3.15
- Release details: https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=2661607

Added the phpBB Media Embed PlugIn to the site
- This will better handle media links from 3rd party sites
- This fixes posting "tweets" which broke when Twitter changed to X - "x.com" links will post correctly now
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Fixed RSS Feeds
- These feed the "Industry News" forums
- They all broke a few months ago
- Updated to the new version of feedpostbot and pulled down missing posts]]>
phpBB updated to ver. 3.3.15
- Release details: https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=2661607

Added the phpBB Media Embed PlugIn to the site
- This will better handle media links from 3rd party sites
- This fixes posting "tweets" which broke when Twitter changed to X - "x.com" links will post correctly now
- More info: https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/exte ... ediaembed/

Fixed RSS Feeds
- These feed the "Industry News" forums
- They all broke a few months ago
- Updated to the new version of feedpostbot and pulled down missing posts]]>